Spring Food Plot
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wartburg TN USA
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Spring Food Plot
Guys I live in East Tennessee and am currently leasing a small 150 acre farm. The farmer still mows the hay, but is willing to allow me to plant 2 tractor lengths out from the edge of the woods around the entire field. I know I need to do a soil sample then lime and fertilizer, till PH is 6-7. My question is what can I plant in the spring that will allow me to attract deer up through bow season, muzzle loader and maybe even into early gun season? Is this possible? When do I need to tiller the ground and get the ball rolling on things? DO I need to lime well before I start tillering and planting? Thanks for anything and everything you can help me with. Glad to be part of the team!
Thanks,
Darren Kelly
Thanks,
Darren Kelly
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 2,059
RE: Spring Food Plot
Deer love to feed on rows of standing corn next to cover. Spread the lime and work it in when you till it (as early as possible). The corn usually goes in near the date of your last frost. In Ontario that's about the middle of May. You'll be planting well before that. There should be local farmers that you can ask.
Dan O.
Dan O.
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Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Livonia Mi USA
Posts: 551
RE: Spring Food Plot
Your planting season is coming up, Feb 1 - April 15 th. Any of the forage crops will work, depending on the soil. Clover will do good in a heavy/river bottom and alfalfa should do good in a more well drained soil. Also, start some licks ASAP...
#4
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baton Rouge La.
Posts: 202
RE: Spring Food Plot
IM FROM LOUISIANA SO OUR CLIMATE IS PROBABLY A LITTLE MILDER THAN YOURS. I PLANT CORN EVERY SPRING IN LATE APRIL AND LEAVE MOST OF IT STANDING FOR THE DEER, I BUSHHOG SOME OF IT FOR SHOOTING LANES AND THEN CHOP THOSE LANES AND PLANT WITH A CLOVER/RYE GRASS MIX. THE DEER ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. I ALSO PLANT PEAS, EITHER IRON CLAY OR COW PEAS, USUALLY IN JUNE AND THEY LAST WELL INTO BOW SEASON FOR US.
#5
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: South Central Virginia
Posts: 116
RE: Spring Food Plot
DSK,
I would go with a clover mix or alfalfa in you situation. The long and narrow planting next to cover works great with these and you should get a few really good years out of them. I would add lime if needed and till or plow as soon as you can to break up the soil and leave it. You should be able to plant between the end of March to the end of April. You will need then need to add what ever fertilizer you need then till or disc it in then plant your seed. You may not need too much lime or fertilizer if the farmer is already adding some to his field your soil sample will tell you that.
I would go with a clover mix or alfalfa in you situation. The long and narrow planting next to cover works great with these and you should get a few really good years out of them. I would add lime if needed and till or plow as soon as you can to break up the soil and leave it. You should be able to plant between the end of March to the end of April. You will need then need to add what ever fertilizer you need then till or disc it in then plant your seed. You may not need too much lime or fertilizer if the farmer is already adding some to his field your soil sample will tell you that.
#6
RE: Spring Food Plot
If your only planting a narrow strip around the edge (20 ft?) I'd skip corn, for MANY reasons. Corn grows best when planted in blocks so it can cross fertilize, long narrow strips of corn may not ear out very well - even with proper soil. Also, edge plantings of corn are very hard hit by deer, other animals, and insects. Assuming you have a good population of deer, I would doubt many would ever ear out as the corn will be thouroughly eaten by mid August. Also, corn requires a 6.5 ph to do well, it takes at least 3 months for lime to have much effect on the soil. If the hay has been removed off the feild - and is not a legume (clover/alfalfa) over a period of years, you can bet the Nitrogen (N) level is very low, unless the farmer has been fertilizing every year. Corn requires at least 100-200 lb of N/acre to ear out, plus P&K, all this fertilizer makes the ground even more acidic. Lastly, as a result, corn can be an expensive endeavor to get a good crop compared to other food sources.
If the farmer's fields are alfalfa hay, or horse type hay - I'd go with clover (ladino/red/or white) There's nothing wrong with the packaged deals either. If the farmer already has clover - concentrate on a different food source like alfalfa or even wait till fall and plant winter oats, rye, or winter wheat. Its good to offer something a bit different than the farmers in the area if you can.
Of course you should soil sample, but don't get too hung up on it. Most clover will grow OK with ph of 6.0 and oats/rye will grow as low as 5.0ph. Alfalfa and soybeans are another story and need near 7.0 ph to well. In any case, if the ground is rocky, and the feilds haven't been worked in a while, you can bet it will need lime and probably at least some Phosphorous, K levels are usually decent enough to plant in most areas. My point is, an acre is like 45,000 square feet. In a 20 ft strip, an acre is like over 2000 ft long!! So... plan on putting down a couple ton of lime/acre and 200-300 lb of P&K. (no, or little N if planting clover) it will not cost much.
In my area, the soil is very acidic by nature - the soil test only told me what I already knew - LOTS of lime was needed - like 8000 lb/acre to get near 7.0 (mine was 5.0ph). Also, I was told by my local extension agent, that the soil can only absorb 3000 lb/acre of lime per year,at best. You may be able to tell if the soil is acidic by observing what types of plants currently do well on the land. For instance, daisys and wild carrot thrive on acidic land - milkweed and lambsquarters like a more neutral Ph.
That being said, the $10.00 for the soil test is a good investment anyway - if you plan to work the land over several seasons - at least you'll know where you started at.
Good luck - its kind of fun planting - but know what you could be in for before you choose a crop.
If the farmer's fields are alfalfa hay, or horse type hay - I'd go with clover (ladino/red/or white) There's nothing wrong with the packaged deals either. If the farmer already has clover - concentrate on a different food source like alfalfa or even wait till fall and plant winter oats, rye, or winter wheat. Its good to offer something a bit different than the farmers in the area if you can.
Of course you should soil sample, but don't get too hung up on it. Most clover will grow OK with ph of 6.0 and oats/rye will grow as low as 5.0ph. Alfalfa and soybeans are another story and need near 7.0 ph to well. In any case, if the ground is rocky, and the feilds haven't been worked in a while, you can bet it will need lime and probably at least some Phosphorous, K levels are usually decent enough to plant in most areas. My point is, an acre is like 45,000 square feet. In a 20 ft strip, an acre is like over 2000 ft long!! So... plan on putting down a couple ton of lime/acre and 200-300 lb of P&K. (no, or little N if planting clover) it will not cost much.
In my area, the soil is very acidic by nature - the soil test only told me what I already knew - LOTS of lime was needed - like 8000 lb/acre to get near 7.0 (mine was 5.0ph). Also, I was told by my local extension agent, that the soil can only absorb 3000 lb/acre of lime per year,at best. You may be able to tell if the soil is acidic by observing what types of plants currently do well on the land. For instance, daisys and wild carrot thrive on acidic land - milkweed and lambsquarters like a more neutral Ph.
That being said, the $10.00 for the soil test is a good investment anyway - if you plan to work the land over several seasons - at least you'll know where you started at.
Good luck - its kind of fun planting - but know what you could be in for before you choose a crop.
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