Clear Cutting by Timber Company
06-29-2016, 05:42 PM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
I guess you are at their mercy if they own and control the land. I doubt that they will change a lease to give you any more control than you already don't have! All you can do is get your stuff out of there before they start and hope they finish before the deer season starts so they don't completely ruin this season for you as expensive as that lease costs per person.
06-30-2016, 01:33 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: MICHIGAN
Posts: 2,568
Funny!! just the other day I had a Yooper friend tell me several of the UP paper mills are setting idle and many a pulp cutter is off on a forced vacation.
I did get a letter from a timber company that wants to log off the hardwoods at my deer camp property and the cedars.
Al
I did get a letter from a timber company that wants to log off the hardwoods at my deer camp property and the cedars.
Al
06-30-2016, 02:33 AM
#13
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Paradise
Posts: 23,428
vermont has some pretty strict timber cutting laws but with the high price now paid for softwoods a lot of that has been cut removing needed wintering yards. Up here they are leaving the sterile hardwood stands with no browse and taking the softwood. Luckily they are limited in scope of how much they can cut.
06-30-2016, 08:15 AM
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Germany/Calif.
Posts: 2,664
Don't know if this helps or not. The artwork is how my setup was before the logging.
Black X`s were my raised shooting platforms or high seats.
Light green is the border. The Duke owns the other side.
Kind of brown line is where the Deer regularly fed.
Black lines is where the Hogs crossed.
Now after the cut, there is pretty much nothing going on.
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Black X`s were my raised shooting platforms or high seats.
Light green is the border. The Duke owns the other side.
Kind of brown line is where the Deer regularly fed.
Black lines is where the Hogs crossed.
Now after the cut, there is pretty much nothing going on.
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Last edited by MudderChuck; 06-30-2016 at 08:22 AM.
06-30-2016, 06:12 PM
#15
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 5,425
If you don't own the land, not much you can do, if you want to manage land as you see fit, buy it... 
Cutovers can be hotspots, deer can't reach much over 3-4 feet high, mature hardwood forest only feed them a few months out of the year whereas a cutover is loaded with low growth plants that deer will eat...
Cutovers can be hotspots, deer can't reach much over 3-4 feet high, mature hardwood forest only feed them a few months out of the year whereas a cutover is loaded with low growth plants that deer will eat...
06-30-2016, 06:55 PM
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Neches, Texas
Posts: 5,514
Most of East Texas is Timber Company land. You are at their mercy, as they can do what they want, whenever they want to! It is their property! That said, I am hunting 5500 acres of timber company land. They have been clear cutting and thinning for the last 3 years. Normally, they will not cut on opening weekend, after that, all bets are off!
Also, most of them will not just run over your stuff. They will move it over a few yards or cut around it. Plus, if you catch them "thinning" at the right time, they may just cut you a shooting lane that they did not intend to cut!
All-in-all, over the years, I have not seen that their cutting has hurt the hunting much, if at all!
Also, most of them will not just run over your stuff. They will move it over a few yards or cut around it. Plus, if you catch them "thinning" at the right time, they may just cut you a shooting lane that they did not intend to cut!
All-in-all, over the years, I have not seen that their cutting has hurt the hunting much, if at all!
07-01-2016, 08:31 AM
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Germany/Calif.
Posts: 2,664
How long does your lease run for? How long are you stuck with the situation after the clear cut or in other words can you move?
Before the clear cut on the lease I hunted, there were two groups of a dozen Deer that fed in the same area on a regular basis. Mostly Doe and young Buck. During the rut, the big Bucks would show up.
After the clear cut, I'd see night feeders foraging through the new growth. Mostly just singles passing through.
The clear cut was near the end of a five year lease. Needless to say we didn't renew and moved on to another lease.
Has happened to me three times now, once was the clear cut, another time a highway right through the middle of a centuries old game trail and the last time some busy farmer moved the creek, which was the border between him, his neighbor and one side of my lease. All three times the hunting went bad or the game just moved to a better area.
Before the clear cut on the lease I hunted, there were two groups of a dozen Deer that fed in the same area on a regular basis. Mostly Doe and young Buck. During the rut, the big Bucks would show up.
After the clear cut, I'd see night feeders foraging through the new growth. Mostly just singles passing through.
The clear cut was near the end of a five year lease. Needless to say we didn't renew and moved on to another lease.
Has happened to me three times now, once was the clear cut, another time a highway right through the middle of a centuries old game trail and the last time some busy farmer moved the creek, which was the border between him, his neighbor and one side of my lease. All three times the hunting went bad or the game just moved to a better area.
Last edited by MudderChuck; 07-01-2016 at 08:37 AM.
07-01-2016, 12:47 PM
#20
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: WI
Posts: 1,089
I'm a logger, so after i log/clearcut a county tract off, we go back after 2 years and drive & post. We get plenty of deer. Because of logging the Moose in the New England states made a come back. It works the same with deer as they are browsers also.