Calls and scents
08-15-2003, 07:35 AM
#11
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fredericksburg Virginia USA
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RE: Calls and scents
TR I actually load up on beans and cabbage for buck snorts!
In regards to my ability with a bow, why don' t you take me out with you some time and you can critique me on any deer or elk you put me on to![8D] Of course I want them within 25 yards minimum. Hey maybe a moose![:-]
In regards to my ability with a bow, why don' t you take me out with you some time and you can critique me on any deer or elk you put me on to![8D] Of course I want them within 25 yards minimum. Hey maybe a moose![:-]
08-15-2003, 07:52 AM
#13
Fork Horn
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RE: Calls and scents
In other words you really are playing a " wind" instrument.[
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You' re offer of the hunt reminds me I have just the hunt for you. I have a guaranteed elk hunt here in Minnesota. The cost is $4000 for the hunt (paid up front), if you don' t get one I' ll refund $2000. []
Since the only people who can hunt elk in Minnesota are residents, and the chances of getting a " once in a lifetime" permit are slim and none, just give me the $2000, and I' ll drag you around the woods for 5 days, and we' ll chalk it up to " in-field training."
]You' re offer of the hunt reminds me I have just the hunt for you. I have a guaranteed elk hunt here in Minnesota. The cost is $4000 for the hunt (paid up front), if you don' t get one I' ll refund $2000. [
] Since the only people who can hunt elk in Minnesota are residents, and the chances of getting a " once in a lifetime" permit are slim and none, just give me the $2000, and I' ll drag you around the woods for 5 days, and we' ll chalk it up to " in-field training."
08-15-2003, 08:04 AM
#14
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: East Yapank NY USA
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RE: Calls and scents
I am never far away
I use the true-talker also - I like that call
I am not a big scent guy either - but.....I have a few stands set up that may play into a scent drag tactic. I have done this in the past with some success (smaller bucks though). I will if conditions present themselves to do some dragging this year
Oh - I also am a fan of the can - maaaaaaaaaa....maaaaaaaaaa....maaaaaaaaaaa
Music to my ears
I use the true-talker also - I like that call
I am not a big scent guy either - but.....I have a few stands set up that may play into a scent drag tactic. I have done this in the past with some success (smaller bucks though). I will if conditions present themselves to do some dragging this year
Oh - I also am a fan of the can - maaaaaaaaaa....maaaaaaaaaa....maaaaaaaaaaa
Music to my ears
08-15-2003, 10:20 AM
#15
Boone & Crockett
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RE: Calls and scents
Since the only people who can hunt elk in Minnesota are residents, and the chances of getting a " once in a lifetime" permit are slim and none, just give me the $2000, and I' ll drag you around the woods for 5 days, and we' ll chalk it up to " in-field training."
08-15-2003, 03:31 PM
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RE: Calls and scents
Wow seems like everyone loves the Truetalker! Perhaps I should do some more practicing with it and take it into the woods with me this fall.....
Baiting is not legal in my state, and I also consider it somewhat unethical. Not to say I look down on anyone who hunts over bait.....everyone has their own definition of a fair hunt.
How many of you use carbon sprays? Was wondering how they compare to Scent Killer or Scent Shield.
Also has anybody experimented with making homemade cover scents? I brewed some last year from young poplar buds. I stunk the whole house up making it and it left a sticky residue, but I was impressed with the effectiveness of it. It was quite strong and seemed to mask my scent very well, and being a natural native aroma didn' t seem to spook deer at all.
Another thing I do is keep my hunting clothes in an airtight plastic bag starting a few weeks before the season, along with a few spruce and cedar boughs. After the hunt they go right back into the bag and are left outside (unless they need to be dried first).
Baiting is not legal in my state, and I also consider it somewhat unethical. Not to say I look down on anyone who hunts over bait.....everyone has their own definition of a fair hunt.
How many of you use carbon sprays? Was wondering how they compare to Scent Killer or Scent Shield.
Also has anybody experimented with making homemade cover scents? I brewed some last year from young poplar buds. I stunk the whole house up making it and it left a sticky residue, but I was impressed with the effectiveness of it. It was quite strong and seemed to mask my scent very well, and being a natural native aroma didn' t seem to spook deer at all.
Another thing I do is keep my hunting clothes in an airtight plastic bag starting a few weeks before the season, along with a few spruce and cedar boughs. After the hunt they go right back into the bag and are left outside (unless they need to be dried first).
08-15-2003, 03:53 PM
#18
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southern Illinois
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RE: Calls and scents
I just purchased a primos hands call a couple of days ago and it has 5 different deer noises from a trophy buck grunt to a estrus doe bleat and it sounds amazing. But the real test will be when I take it to the woods with me. Oh and the other great thing is that it is about 3 inches long so it is not a big bulky thing around your neck or in your mouth.
08-16-2003, 07:03 AM
#19
Fork Horn
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RE: Calls and scents
Not one of the several researchers/biologists I talk to on a regular basis has ever heard or recorded a call that was used by a doe to " tell" a buck she was in estrus. There doesn' t seem to be a doe " estrus" call !!!
The call the " experts" claim is a doe bleat is probably a Social Contact Grunt, which is louder and longer than other grunts, and is used by deer when they are separated from each other.
The call the " experts" claim is a doe bleat is probably a Social Contact Grunt, which is louder and longer than other grunts, and is used by deer when they are separated from each other.
08-16-2003, 08:10 PM
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RE: Calls and scents
Now there' s an interesting bit of information! I had always thought (as well as most hunters I assume) that there was such a thing as a doe estrus bleat. This could be due to the fact that call manufacturers want to sell more products I suppose. So the idea is that deer associate the so-called estrus bleat with more of a " hey, over here!" , other than " hey baby give me some loving" ?
I' m curious if anyone has used the " popping" type sound that bucks make during/after breeding with any success. The video that came with the M.A.D. Power Punch call talked about calling this way, but i could never do it even after many hours of practicing. As I said before, I didn' t like that call much anyway. Basically it is a series of soft clicking or popping noises. It' s not one I will bother with, but was just wondering if any of you have put it to good use or not.
Another thing I dislike is the snort/wheeze calls. I don' t like the idea of using an " alarm" type noise to call in deer. Just seems to me it would spook more deer than it would bring in. I did try it once and did indeed send deer fleeing.....so never bothered again. Anybody disagree with this?
I' m curious if anyone has used the " popping" type sound that bucks make during/after breeding with any success. The video that came with the M.A.D. Power Punch call talked about calling this way, but i could never do it even after many hours of practicing. As I said before, I didn' t like that call much anyway. Basically it is a series of soft clicking or popping noises. It' s not one I will bother with, but was just wondering if any of you have put it to good use or not.
Another thing I dislike is the snort/wheeze calls. I don' t like the idea of using an " alarm" type noise to call in deer. Just seems to me it would spook more deer than it would bring in. I did try it once and did indeed send deer fleeing.....so never bothered again. Anybody disagree with this?