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Thanks for the comments so far. It sounds like several of you have been happy with the Stoeger 2000 and I liked the comments about the 935 as well. Vabyrd, I can tell you like your Berretta, but price doesn't always = quality. I bought my 870 eight years ago and it still shoots as good as ever with almost no maintenance. It has chambered 1000s of rounds and brought down 100s of birds (some with 3 1/2 inch shells to boot). I bought it new for less than $300.00. If all the guns I listed are garbage, including the 870, I know for a fact that your opinion is the only thing that is foul. However, if you've had specific problems with any of these guns I would love some more constructive input.

driftrider

I love my Stoeger 2000. It's a great autoloader for not a lot of money. Great value too. You'll pay 3x as much for a "better" autoloader.

Mike

vabyrd

I didn't say 870's were garbage. NO way, they are by the the best pump ever made. I've owned several. However, when I comes to auto's, that is another world. As far as Beretta, I don't own one.... WHAT??? Nope. I only one 12, and that is a Citori. Then what do I know? I know that every trap, skeet, and clays facility I've ever been to only rents Berettas. All of the Argentina high volume dove shoots, use Berettas. Why? reliability, reliability, reliability. But Im telling you, those guns listed are built so they can be sold cheap. Your not getting a deal, your getting a gun that started its design from the price tag. Look, any of those guns will be equal to the other. $500 is $500..but when you step it up a notch, you'll get into an area of guns that don't fail. Hence, Beretta.

Spend $700 on a used Beretta, and you're ahead. spend 500 bucks on one of those, and someone might give you 300 for it.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get...

Having said that, Benelli's are great too. I just not as familiar with them..

driftrider

Then you wouldn't know that the Stoeger 2000 uses the same operating mechanism as the much revered Super Black Eagle... Just because it's made in Turkey doesn't or that it only cost $400, doesn't mean that it's junk. You revere the 870, but I've had two 870's that were junk and I'd take my Stoeger over either of them any day. Have you ever shot a Stoeger, or do you base your opinion solely on the price of the gun?

Mike

brushbuster07

Don't get the Mossberg. I know WAY to many jammer Mossbergs. I have a Beretta AL391 Urika, and have had it for about 8 years now, and it has NEVER jammed on me; and I hunt a LOT. Deer, turkey, pheasant, rabbits, duck, geese...you name it I hunt it (in Iowa lol).

vabyrd

If it shot like a $1000 shotgun, do you think it would sell for $400? Stoeger is NOT the same as Benelli. IF it was, why doesn't it sell for the same?? Why are Benellis twice as much? Its called Economics.

If you think your getting a $1000 shotgun for $400, you're mistaken.

And, if you bought an 870 in the past few years, it probably was junk. I wouldnt touch one of those laminated, bead blasted,plastic POS for free. What do you expect for a $235 shotgun?

Arkansasmountainman

if you liked the 870 pump look at the 1187 auto they feel alot alike

driftrider

Why are Benellis twice as much (actually, it's closer to three times more)? That's an excellent question, since the only thing a SBEII can do that my Stoeger can't is shoot 3.5" shells, which I have no need or desire to shoot.

How is a $1000 shotgun supposed to shoot, exactly? If my gun is reliable, which it is, patterns well, which it does, fits and points well, and uses the same action, what does the Benelli offer that the Stoeger doesn't? The finish? Is that worth the extra $700 the Benelli would cost? Not to me.

Mike

BuckShooter

Don't by-pass the Brownings either in pump-action or auto-loader.....Great guns. With inter-changable chokes you can do whatever you like with them too. From Rifled choke to whatever shot-shell choke going.

teamluhnacy

What no Benelli on the list? Price i guess but if you want a shotgun that you can put through the ringer and have forever they would be my choice. I have 3 myself one for each kid and then there is mine. I have the M2 and I wouldn't take for it. I've actually used it to paddle the boat a few times. Once I was wading out to retrieve a duck (dog took the day off lol) and my foot got stuck in the soft bottom. Water was about 3-4ft deep and I started to fall forward. My gun was in my hand (cause ducks always fly in when you are fetching a downed bird). I tried to catch my balance but it was too late, I fell forward. I put the gun out in front to catch myself from going all the way under and I sunk it about 6 inches of mud. Swished it around in the water to get the mud off, pulled it out turned the barrel down and let all the water run out. Kicked out the shells loaded three more then shot two birds that were flying in over top of me. I used to think the commercial they have with the duck commander was a joke but now I believe.