hunting is to easy these days
03-17-2009, 04:44 PM
#21
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South central Nebraska
Posts: 2,317
RE: hunting is to easy these days
just hunt for a few days
i hunt almost every day from oct 1 til jan.
03-17-2009, 09:12 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,519
RE: hunting is to easy these days
I agree with you in the fact that I do not like the guys baiting the deer and it is illegal here. Most still hunters I know bait deer to be honest. Not all but most. It's illegal here in VA during hunting season yet they still do it. Quite a few of them break other laws too while baiting the deer but baiting is the #1 law they break.
What gets me is these same guys are the ones complaining that hunting with dogs needs to be outlawed in VA because those guys just don't do stuff legal. Infact most of the dog hunting I know of is a lot more legal than most of the hunting in stands I know of that goes on. Somehow all the non hunters seem to take the stand hunters word and think that dog hunting is wrong. Like it's okay that they sit there and illegal bait the deer and shoot them. However, it's wrong to legally have dogs chase a deer. Out.
If it wasn't illegal and they weren't the ones complaining about how hunting with dogs is cheating and how it should be banned. Then a few of them thinking all dog hunters break the laws when most of the ones I know don't. Yet somehow they all see it as okay for them to feed the deer and shoot them when they are coming to eat. Yet that really is illegal.
What gets me is these same guys are the ones complaining that hunting with dogs needs to be outlawed in VA because those guys just don't do stuff legal. Infact most of the dog hunting I know of is a lot more legal than most of the hunting in stands I know of that goes on. Somehow all the non hunters seem to take the stand hunters word and think that dog hunting is wrong. Like it's okay that they sit there and illegal bait the deer and shoot them. However, it's wrong to legally have dogs chase a deer. Out.
If it wasn't illegal and they weren't the ones complaining about how hunting with dogs is cheating and how it should be banned. Then a few of them thinking all dog hunters break the laws when most of the ones I know don't. Yet somehow they all see it as okay for them to feed the deer and shoot them when they are coming to eat. Yet that really is illegal.
03-18-2009, 03:09 AM
#23
Typical Buck
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: grottoes,va.
Posts: 764
RE: hunting is to easy these days
its simple baiting makes it easy,camera's to find your deer are like having someone else hunt for you. mottz ,no the way i hunt its not easy. i enjoy the hunt,and don't mind spending the time to hunt. i'm willing to spend a month to kill a big buck and some baiter kills 10 in a few days. its not right.
hometheaterman, i don't live where dog hunting is legal. i have hunted with dogs,but don't really like it much.it doesn't take much dog pressure to make deer real smart. the main reason you are hearing about the push to outlaw dag hunting in va. is to many rich people buying up land ,horse farms and nonhunters. its hard to keep dogs off there property. sooner or later they will stop it.money talks. its the same with bear hunting where i live, running bear with dogs is a big thing on national forest . i really don't think the bear has much chance with a bunch of dogs on him,but we have some areas that have to many bear. bear cause alot of damage every year.
hometheaterman, i don't live where dog hunting is legal. i have hunted with dogs,but don't really like it much.it doesn't take much dog pressure to make deer real smart. the main reason you are hearing about the push to outlaw dag hunting in va. is to many rich people buying up land ,horse farms and nonhunters. its hard to keep dogs off there property. sooner or later they will stop it.money talks. its the same with bear hunting where i live, running bear with dogs is a big thing on national forest . i really don't think the bear has much chance with a bunch of dogs on him,but we have some areas that have to many bear. bear cause alot of damage every year.
03-18-2009, 04:41 AM
#24
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 701
RE: hunting is to easy these days
I have a challenge for any seasoned hunter >>>>>> Pa Gamelands # 52,Good luck. One hint ,Take a sign you can hold up that says,( Keep moving hunter I aint here to bullcrap). You will have to hold it up 100 times a day.If you are lucky and spend several hundred hours there in the season you might get blessed by God and see a doe or 2.
03-18-2009, 08:37 AM
#25
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,519
RE: hunting is to easy these days
ORIGINAL: srwshooter
hometheaterman, i don't live where dog hunting is legal. i have hunted with dogs,but don't really like it much.it doesn't take much dog pressure to make deer real smart. the main reason you are hearing about the push to outlaw dag hunting in va. is to many rich people buying up land ,horse farms and nonhunters. its hard to keep dogs off there property. sooner or later they will stop it.money talks. its the same with bear hunting where i live, running bear with dogs is a big thing on national forest . i really don't think the bear has much chance with a bunch of dogs on him,but we have some areas that have to many bear. bear cause alot of damage every year.
hometheaterman, i don't live where dog hunting is legal. i have hunted with dogs,but don't really like it much.it doesn't take much dog pressure to make deer real smart. the main reason you are hearing about the push to outlaw dag hunting in va. is to many rich people buying up land ,horse farms and nonhunters. its hard to keep dogs off there property. sooner or later they will stop it.money talks. its the same with bear hunting where i live, running bear with dogs is a big thing on national forest . i really don't think the bear has much chance with a bunch of dogs on him,but we have some areas that have to many bear. bear cause alot of damage every year.
Do you do any bear hunting? I know several guys that do over that way but I've never tried it myself.
03-18-2009, 08:51 AM
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: oxford county, maine
Posts: 2,206
RE: hunting is to easy these days
about time we got some new englanders around here. i have always said ide like to see these fellas from away who shoot two or three bucks a year come on up to maine and hunt w/ us for 10 days up in eustis and see how bucks they shoot. heck see!! when you catch a big bruiser layin in his bed in the north country then youve done somethin
03-18-2009, 09:10 AM
#27
Join Date: Mar 2009
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RE: hunting is to easy these days
ORIGINAL: Jimmy S
If you think hunting is too easy, come on up to northern New England.
No cameras, no baiting, just miles of woods with the deer population lower than you probably have ever experienced.
We have some of the biggest bucks in the country that dress well over 200 pounds. The kind of deer that will take you breath away.
So, if you want a real challenge, c'mon up and spend a week hunting these big bucks.
You might be lucky enough just to see one.
If you think hunting is too easy, come on up to northern New England.
No cameras, no baiting, just miles of woods with the deer population lower than you probably have ever experienced.
We have some of the biggest bucks in the country that dress well over 200 pounds. The kind of deer that will take you breath away.
So, if you want a real challenge, c'mon up and spend a week hunting these big bucks.
You might be lucky enough just to see one.
03-18-2009, 09:13 AM
#28
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Madison County,NY
Posts: 138
RE: hunting is to easy these days
ORIGINAL: srwshooter
its simple baiting makes it easy,camera's to find your deer are like having someone else hunt for you. mottz ,no the way i hunt its not easy. i enjoy the hunt,and don't mind spending the time to hunt. i'm willing to spend a month to kill a big buck and some baiter kills 10 in a few days. its not right.
its simple baiting makes it easy,camera's to find your deer are like having someone else hunt for you. mottz ,no the way i hunt its not easy. i enjoy the hunt,and don't mind spending the time to hunt. i'm willing to spend a month to kill a big buck and some baiter kills 10 in a few days. its not right.
03-18-2009, 09:40 AM
#29
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: South central Nebraska
Posts: 2,317
RE: hunting is to easy these days
camera's to find your deer are like having someone else hunt for you.
03-18-2009, 09:47 AM
#30
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Scotland & Spain
Posts: 4,125
RE: hunting is to easy these days
ORIGINAL: srwshooter
i like to go into a new area with know idea whats there,no camera's ,no feeding. just hunt for a few days and half the fun is trying to find big buck sign on new property. i like to kill a buck the first time i lay eyes on him. its the way everyone used to hunt where i live,now we have guys feeding so much you will hardly ever see a deer on some property. they just as well go high fence and just raise farm deer to shoot.
i saw a guy near me last week with a bunch of new feeders on his truck,thats fine now. come sept 1 its illegal to feed deer in va. so this year i'm sending the warden to them all.
i like to go into a new area with know idea whats there,no camera's ,no feeding. just hunt for a few days and half the fun is trying to find big buck sign on new property. i like to kill a buck the first time i lay eyes on him. its the way everyone used to hunt where i live,now we have guys feeding so much you will hardly ever see a deer on some property. they just as well go high fence and just raise farm deer to shoot.
i saw a guy near me last week with a bunch of new feeders on his truck,thats fine now. come sept 1 its illegal to feed deer in va. so this year i'm sending the warden to them all.
We do not use scents, and all the other BS. It's always good to get back to basics. I believe it makes you a better hunter.
Only time we use a blind/hide is when we're hunting game birds out in a field.