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Well he was an eight point at one time.(Why didn't he bleed)

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Old 12-07-2008, 09:01 PM
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I was thinking about it this morning and thought that maybe when I shot the heart it didn't just slow/hinder the heart beat but stop it altogether immediatley and produced a lack of blood pressureso no blood was pumped out. And he was able to run 100 yards on just the left over adrinalene.
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:13 PM
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nice buck. congrats
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Old 12-07-2008, 09:47 PM
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Sometimes they don't bleed an awfull lot if the heart is unable to pump at all. Basically blood just pools in the chest cavity but not enough to reach the "holes" - When the deer tips over, a good amount of blood is lost there.

I've seen it several times over the years - A deer can run pretty far on O2 in the blood. He was dead and just didn't know it.

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Old 12-07-2008, 10:13 PM
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Mine from this past monday didnt bleed much either. In my case it was because the bullet did not actually create an exit wound. This blocked all the blood from being expelled and thus the enitre chest cavity was completely filled with blood. Once I opened him up I could see where all the blood was. Was your deers chest cavity completely filled with blood?
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Old 12-07-2008, 11:43 PM
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After reading your story I will tell you a story of what happened to me earlier in November of this year.Shooting a 50 caliber muzzleloader this year I double lunged a big buck using 240 grain Hornady XTP bullets and the deer also ran for over 100 yards doubling back and crossing a river onto posted land where no one is allowed to go and this deer had about a 19 inch spread 8 pointer.This deer bleed good about every 5 feet but was still able to run that far bleeding that much.So from here on out I will never double lunga deer shooting a rifle or slug gun but will always take out the shoulder from here on out and shoot a bullet that will penetrate the vitals once I take out the shoulder.In my 45/70 I shoot 300 grain super x hollowpoints which will break the shoulder and take out the vitals so that never happens again as I already shot a 140 pound dressed doe that went no more than 10 feet shooting my 45/70 in thick cover is where I hunt 95% of the time with shots 45 yards or less so that is why I shoot a Marlin guide gun for fast follow up shots if needed.I shot a 270 for over 15 years and have killed probably 50 deer with one and they are deadly but some of the big old mountain deer I took the lungs out still ran to far for me and I was shooting 150 grain Sierra boattails that literally blew up for instant kills but some of them that did not always happen.If I were you I would consider Nosler Partitions and go for the shoulder shots instead of lung shots.We get brainwashed to much by watching bowshooters double lung them but they have no choice with a bow but we do with a gun.I am not worried about wasting any meat with a shoulder shot as not that much meat is there but I wish to this day I would have taken a shoulder shot on my big buck that went onto posted property and died but that is hunting.I still miss my 270 but I would never give up my 45/70 for the fast follow up shots it gives if needed but with a 300 grain hollow point it is seldom needed.Congratulations on your deer and the reason I responded to your post is that you could have lost that deer it sounds like and I didnt want what happened to me to happen to you.I used to always take out the shoulder first as the legs go out with them but for some reason got away from it.You are shooting a good caliber but I would shoot a better constructed bullet as I know firsthand what those flatshooting 270 can do!Take Care!Mike
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Old 12-08-2008, 07:21 AM
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Congrats
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:15 AM
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Well Done. Nice deer and good job with the donation


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Old 12-08-2008, 09:15 AM
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They don't always leave a blood trail...That's why you need have confidence in both your bullet you choose and in you gun and shooting ability...This makes you keep looking until you find your deer...
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:37 AM
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Congrats on a nice deer and way to go with the donation as well. The deer may not have bled because its heart stop on impact with the shot, he was just running on borrowed time. With no heart to pump the blood, it probably just filled like a bathtub in the chest cavity. When you generally track a lung/heart shot deer that has a heart still beating, you can see the gushes on blood when you trail a deer, I attribute this to the beating of the heart pumping out blood in spurts. Anyways, again congrats on a nice buck!
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Old 12-08-2008, 12:36 PM
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Congrats on the Buck and the donation. My buck this year didn't leave a blood trail, even with the little bit of snow on the ground, no blood. I hit it hard through the heart and lungs with my .243, it went about 45 yards and piled up on a log. Lots of internal bleeding and damage as you can imagine. No exit wound though would explain the lack of a blood trail with this buck, though the entrance wound was silver dollar sized. I was using a 90 grain ballistic tip, and am going to go back to a less explosive bullet design in the future, this was a bonded bullet, but still blew up like a bomb inside the body cavity, no real meat damage, but not the wound channel I prefer, and if bone was hit I am worried bullet might not have made it into vitals or may have caused massive meat damage.
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