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Old 01-10-2008, 10:48 PM
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i found a deer track that is the size of my cell phone and some rubs and scraps that are monster in size of course season is over my question is this if you find a rub on a tree can you guess the size of the deer by how far up and down it rubbs the tree i know you can but i am bad at guessing things like this i will post up a picture in the next few days of the print and the tree to give you a better idea.
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:02 AM
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I have watched a video from the "Benoits", it's there most current CD available(possibly 2005).
All of their videos are great, as they spend more time than most explaining how they hunt and what to look for.
Each video has a dozen harvests that are quite unique, no drama like most hunting videos, just real hunts with good footage.
This is big woods, big bodied northeast woods. With deer dressing well over 200lbs., most @ 230-250lbs, in these videos. The Benoits are famous in these parts (Vt, NH, ME & Ontario) as snow tracking gurus and they get some dandy's!
As mentioned @ the beggining...
The most current video shows them chasing/tracking a big buck and they come across the freshly dropped antlers on the ground in fresh snow. Prior to finding the sheds the footage shows trees that the buck rubed and they where tiny diameter trees, so the "theory" of big rubs=big deer is not a proven fact.
I suggest these video as a b-day present to yourself, as they are quite different than the tree stand hunts over foodplots that we are all accustomed to seeing, very inforamtive.

And is the question arises... No I don't even know the Benoits and this is not a sale pitch, just damn good videos.

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Old 01-11-2008, 06:14 AM
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Well I can say this.....small bucks do not make big rubs. Take a 15-20in. diameter tree that is rubed, small bucks can't get their horns around a tree that big. You find a big rub, a big buck made it!! Big bucks do however rub on almost every size tree soooooo.....a big rub is what you need to find!!!
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Old 01-11-2008, 06:26 AM
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A agree 100% and should have noted that for people. I assumed that it's obvious big rubs=big bucks. I didn't want to discount the small tree theory. Look for telephone pole (sized) rubs!
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Old 01-11-2008, 08:47 AM
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I have watched a video from the "Benoits", it's there most current CD available(possibly 2005).
All of their videos are great, as they spend more time than most explaining how they hunt and what to look for. Each video has a dozen harvests that are quite unique, no drama like most hunting videos, just real hunts with good footage. The Benoits are famous in these parts (Vt, NH, ME & Ontario) as snow tracking gurus and they get some dandy's! I suggest these video as a b-day present to yourself, as they are quite different than the tree stand hunts over foodplots that we are all accustomed to seeing, very inforamtive.
Do you know of anymore more informative videos. I hunt down in Tennessee and not sure if the tactics will be the same or different then up North. As you said I watch hours of the shows of the guys hunting over food plots in perfect conditions only to get about 5 minutes of useful info for the beginner. Thanks
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:35 AM
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Well all i can say is where i hunted this year there was a tree about 20 inches in diameter and about a 3 foot section was destroyed. We found where we thought he bedded down at. One night we were coming home from grabbing a bite to eat in town and there was a monster 12 point in their front yard munching on corn we left. After that night we never saw him again.
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Old 01-11-2008, 12:34 PM
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Like said before, a small buck cant make a big rub, but big bucks will also make rubs on small diameter trees, so if you find a rub on a big tree you can be sure that a nice buck made it. As for scrapes, if you find a huge scrape it is most likely a community scrape that several bucks are working, or if the licking branch is big and spread out the buck may be pawing all around under it, which makes the scrape bigger. Theonly way you can somewhat guess the size of the deer that made a scrape is by finding a track in the scrape, if there is a big track inthe scrapethen chances are a big buck visited it. If deer are still visiting the scrape right now I would get a camera over it just to see what it is. There was a scrape on a property that I hunt that bucks were checking outin january last year and I got a few nice pics on my camera I put on it.
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