Ethics question, what should I do.....
#1
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 9
Ethics question, what should I do.....
Let me start by saying this is a long story and I spologize for that, but some guidance on the situation would be nice. I'm just now getting over being steamed so writing it down witll help.
I've had the same lease witht hte same landlord for 4 years and never had any problems to this point. That being said, I've been scouting and have two stands, a spot ofr a pop-up ground blind, and a feeder on the propoerty and the landlord's house sits directly across a field from the ground blind. On Saturday morning I set-up the pop-up blind about 40 yards from the feeder and wait. I have been scouting for months waiting on opening day and have the pattern of a pretty large Sika buck down pat. He would walk past the spot every morning about 10 minutes after sunrise and I had watched him do it 6 times over the last couple of weeks while hunting waterfowl. As I sit there, I see a truck drive down the county road leading past my spot, it stop in the landlord's drive way and kill the lights. After about two minutes, all hel breaks loose. I here two shots from the area of the landlords house,across the feild about 150 yardsfrom me. I assumed he has seen a coyote after hsi goats of something, not uncommon there. Needless to say, no deer came my way after that.
As I walk out around 10:45 I run into the landlord who tells me it was the "worthless guy married to my granddaughter" and he has killed the sika buck I had been watching for weeks. I was livid to say the least. His answer was, "What can you do, I mean its family." Do I have any rights here at all? What makes me even madder is the fact that the guys shot straight towards me where I was set up with the blind. I will not be on the lease next year becaouse of this, but man I'm mad. Thoughts or suggestions?
I've had the same lease witht hte same landlord for 4 years and never had any problems to this point. That being said, I've been scouting and have two stands, a spot ofr a pop-up ground blind, and a feeder on the propoerty and the landlord's house sits directly across a field from the ground blind. On Saturday morning I set-up the pop-up blind about 40 yards from the feeder and wait. I have been scouting for months waiting on opening day and have the pattern of a pretty large Sika buck down pat. He would walk past the spot every morning about 10 minutes after sunrise and I had watched him do it 6 times over the last couple of weeks while hunting waterfowl. As I sit there, I see a truck drive down the county road leading past my spot, it stop in the landlord's drive way and kill the lights. After about two minutes, all hel breaks loose. I here two shots from the area of the landlords house,across the feild about 150 yardsfrom me. I assumed he has seen a coyote after hsi goats of something, not uncommon there. Needless to say, no deer came my way after that.
As I walk out around 10:45 I run into the landlord who tells me it was the "worthless guy married to my granddaughter" and he has killed the sika buck I had been watching for weeks. I was livid to say the least. His answer was, "What can you do, I mean its family." Do I have any rights here at all? What makes me even madder is the fact that the guys shot straight towards me where I was set up with the blind. I will not be on the lease next year becaouse of this, but man I'm mad. Thoughts or suggestions?
#2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 71
RE: Ethics question, what should I do.....
It really depends on the way uour "lease" is set up, do you have sole rights or do you share rights with the owner and family? If you share rights then you really have no recourse, take your toys and go home. If you have sole rights then I would ask for some money back and then take your toys and go home. If this is happening while you are there, then no telling what goes on when you are not there.
#3
RE: Ethics question, what should I do.....
That really sucks, and I'll admit, I'd be pissed also. Since you lease the land, to me, that means you have SOLE hunting rights and again, JMO, I think that even means no family.
I really don't blame you for getting out of the lease. I don't mind sharing hunting property with someone, as long as we have an understanding of where each other is at all times to ensure that we both enter and leave the woods safely.
I don't believe I'd ever share a woods that I lease with that guy's family, who isn't paying a dime.
An option... Maybe you could ask the land lord if he'dallow you share the land with that fella and drop the lease payment?
Good luck,
I really don't blame you for getting out of the lease. I don't mind sharing hunting property with someone, as long as we have an understanding of where each other is at all times to ensure that we both enter and leave the woods safely.
I don't believe I'd ever share a woods that I lease with that guy's family, who isn't paying a dime.
An option... Maybe you could ask the land lord if he'dallow you share the land with that fella and drop the lease payment?
Good luck,
#4
RE: Ethics question, what should I do.....
Depends on the terms of the lease. To say the very least, this would constitute another hunter on YOUR LEASE. Based on that alone, you should be able to get at least some of your money back (particularly if you are not hunting there next year). If the guys is leasing the land and then his family hunts on the land, this is wrong, unless it ls spelled out in the lease. Typically,a lease gives you exclusive rights to the land.
#6
RE: Ethics question, what should I do.....
Agreed, if your leaving the lease. Turn the guy in...its illegal to shoot any game that close to the house. Illegal to hunt from your vehicle. Illegal to hunt during non-hunting hours. Id say thats a hefty fine, and being you got screwed over, gives you every right to throw it right back.
JMO.
Good luck.
JMO.
Good luck.