OlMossyHorns

I agree with Longbow. In a few years, we should see bigger buck, and more buck action. That's just my opinion, I have no problem with the restrictions and I think they are here to stay.

Shots that are True....Pass right Through!!!

vc1111

I hunt Pennsylvania also. I like the new regs. It makes a lot of sense when you think about if for a minute.

Big Country

I like the new restrictions myself. If someone is against them, that is fine. What I find amazing is the arguement that a hunter does not have time to count the points during rifle season.

OK, lets analyze that statement.....if you do not have time to count the points, just how sure are you that your area beyond the buck in question is safe to fire towards?

Most hunters I know use firearms substantially larger than a bb gun!
It is pretty scary to see this mindset!
Just flip the safety off, and start spraying .300 win mags.

NRA,UBP,BASS Member
New Stanton,PA

Wide Eyes

i actually don't have a problem with the new laws but don't understand them either

Explain to me just how passing up deer with less then 3 points to a side is going to get us bigger deer. Sure we don't kill the little guys that we normally do, would seem to me more big ones would die. i dunno i'm confused.

These new antler regs have made me pass up a nice shot on a buck simply because i could not see how many points the deer had. with a 4 power scope in brush its hard. I don't care though, didn't rally bother me.

270man

well i like the antler restrictions but yea it is a problem of counting them at times but you should be able to cuz you do have to be sure your area is safe. I hunt where i know where every one is, its private land that only family hunts.My Uncles boss shot a 4 point took it down to the game comishen and paid $25 and they took the horns and he got the meat.I hunt in luzerene co where there is a 3 point antler restriction. I know they want bigger buck and maybe take out some of the older buck to allow younger buck to breed with some new genes or somethen, i have some friends that are apart of the game comishen and thats what they have told me and that it is more than likely to stick around. So maybe it will be somethen good, maybe it will prduce bigger buck it would be nice, but you cant eat the horns but they are nice to show off. Deer meat is a big thing in my house its are main meet supply in the winter mostly unless we dont get any me my dad and mom each shot a doe and are hopen to get a buck on saterday, my grandfather shot a nice 7 point that was still in rut so we have quit a bit of meet so far. Well wish me luck for saterday, and good luck to the rest that havent got one yet. Keep the tradition goin.

boltman

Wide eyes, it's pretty simple. If you don't shoot the small bucks they grow up to be big bucks. If you shoot them when they are small they stop growing. It was legal to shoot big bucks before just as it is now. In years past few hunters were passing on big bucks in the hopes of shooting a small buck, therefore no more big bucks are being shot now than were in the past. Very, very few hunters go hunting with the thought of "Dang, I can't shoot a small buck so I guess I'll just have to shoot more big ones". Not in my world, but maybe in Pennsylvania.

cableguy119

$25 fine is not all they will give you read the fine print. The $25 fine is on the spot and yes you keep the deer, but they send you a $475 fine after the fact. I have heard of 2 instances of this happening. It reads in the book like $25 and you are off the hook but read it and there is a mention that the minimum fine is $500. So look for more mistake kills in the woods as word gets out and if you can butcher the deer yourself you should they are nailing people that take them to a butcher for processing.

It is a shame it comes down to this but the AR are a good thing. If you aren't sure of your target then you shouldn't be hunting anyways. Which with suspensions and people getting sick of AR maybe they won't hunt leaving more larger bucks and less hunters in the woods for those of us that follow the rules..

knobby

having a clear shot on a deer has nothing to do with being able to count the points

just because you cant count the points does NOT mean you are not sure of your target lol

I bet theres alot of hush hush 4 pointers been shot in PA since they made this law...they would be better off to have a 5" antler height minimum or sumthin. Atleast it would be alot easier to glimpse a rack and know it was taller than their ears than it would be to count the actual number of points.

** I almost got him but I refuse to take a marginal shot **

Turd Fergusen

Just a few thoughts,I don't care for the AR. I think that it is a joke & here's why,all the little guys that get by this season are probably going to be small basket racked 8 pointers next year,whats going to happen to them? BANG!=DEAD DEER!I think you'll see an increase in the average age of a buck go to 2-1/2 or 3 & probably see more 8's & 10's taken.Big Country,it is tough to count points on a moving buck especially if it busts across a wide open field.Kinda like where I hunt,big,long,wide fields overlooking a swamp with high rolling hills.Do I know whats beyond my target?Damn right I do!That has nothing to do with counting points!I own 250 acres,the only people that hunt it are my 2 boys,wife myself & a few friends.I have a large "shooting House" built & it is tough to count points on a moving deer.I watch deer all year long,& preety much know what's out here.Now some opinions on fines-granted there are slob hunters out there who will shoot anything & try & get away with it,BUT I'm sure some hunters have made an honest mistake.Remember nobody's perfect.Leaving it up to the game warden to decide if it was a mistake or not is just plain BULL SH$T!If you murder another human being you get a chance at a fair trial,if you shoot an illegal deer your popped for a $500.00 fine?The game commission made the warden judge,jury,& executioner!Some people do make honest mistakes.A man was busted at the local butcher shop,shot a small spike on the first day ,one spike measured 2",the other 3-7/16".$500.00 fine for not properly identifying his target,then he got another $200.00 fine for not taging the deer properly,he used his doe tag.I forgot to mention this man is a nieghboring farmer & is 70 years old!This prick of a warden couldn't cut him a break?I mean after all 7/16 of an inch imo thats B.S.

Deer902

I like the AR's. I heard atleast 3 guys on the walkie talkie in Potter County saying they passed on bucks that they later found out were legal. Here in Allegheny county we unfortunately don't have AR's but I've talked to a ton of guys who say they passed up smaller bucks because they already took a doe and are looking for a big buck. I've seen more bigger buck this year at the butcher shop than I ever have before. I think this is from the concurrent seasons. Alot of guys can only hunt a few days. After they fill there freezer with doe meat they are done. Which leaves more buck for the following year. In a couple of years you'll be able to determine legal or not alot quicker with the bigger size racks than you can now with the smaller maybe(maybe not) racks. Give it a chance I think we'll all be happy.