Global Warming
#31
RE: Global Warming
I think that it is a big first step forward for many countries around the world to acknowledge that global warming is an issue that needs to be addressed immediately.
There is no doubt that humans are (once again)having a negative impact on the environment, it's great to see that acknowledged by the world wide community and action being taken to minimize that impact.
I hopethat this issue can be resolved with the same results as some earlier environmental issues (DDT, ozone, etc). By reading this thread, I wonder why this issue isnot taken more seriously by those (hunters, outdoorsman)who have the most to lose (willdlife, environment).
There is no doubt that humans are (once again)having a negative impact on the environment, it's great to see that acknowledged by the world wide community and action being taken to minimize that impact.
I hopethat this issue can be resolved with the same results as some earlier environmental issues (DDT, ozone, etc). By reading this thread, I wonder why this issue isnot taken more seriously by those (hunters, outdoorsman)who have the most to lose (willdlife, environment).
#32
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: MN USA
Posts: 1,392
RE: Global Warming
loudrunner - You've got the whole shtick down pretty good. These are the same old same old talking points of all those who've drunk the kool-aid.
Despite what you hear in the drive by media and politicians that have reason to use this for their own political advantage, there is no overwhelming evidence that anything that man (key word here) is doing or has done that affect global climate change either for warming or cooling!
Hurricanes have for 95% of all recorded history hit countries and places like the Gulf Coast. We're only returning to what is more the "normal" cycle and frequency of hurricanes after a couple decades of relatively fewer. Go back and review the history of major hurricanes about Galveston, TX.
The other big factor in the amount of destruction of recent years of hurricanes is that many many more people have chosen to live on the coasts (tens of millions more than 50+ years ago). It doesn't take a scientist to figure out that if hurricanes hit the East and Gulf coasts that property is going to get destroying and if more people move there more property and people get the same.
Not all scientists agrees with these highly publicized "global" theories either. There just isn't much incentive to be public if you disagree. The "expert" and "expert" wannabees go into attack mode against anyone who dares to question their methodology and conclusions.
Here is one of many well-spoken scientist who dispel some of the many myths continually floated with nothing hold them up.
Colorado State University’s William Gray, Atmospheric Physicist http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=263759
Despite what you hear in the drive by media and politicians that have reason to use this for their own political advantage, there is no overwhelming evidence that anything that man (key word here) is doing or has done that affect global climate change either for warming or cooling!
Hurricanes have for 95% of all recorded history hit countries and places like the Gulf Coast. We're only returning to what is more the "normal" cycle and frequency of hurricanes after a couple decades of relatively fewer. Go back and review the history of major hurricanes about Galveston, TX.
The other big factor in the amount of destruction of recent years of hurricanes is that many many more people have chosen to live on the coasts (tens of millions more than 50+ years ago). It doesn't take a scientist to figure out that if hurricanes hit the East and Gulf coasts that property is going to get destroying and if more people move there more property and people get the same.
Not all scientists agrees with these highly publicized "global" theories either. There just isn't much incentive to be public if you disagree. The "expert" and "expert" wannabees go into attack mode against anyone who dares to question their methodology and conclusions.
Here is one of many well-spoken scientist who dispel some of the many myths continually floated with nothing hold them up.
Colorado State University’s William Gray, Atmospheric Physicist http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm?party=rep&id=263759
#33
Join Date: Dec 2006
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RE: Global Warming
-42 today in northern MN.... damn you Al Gore and your global warming!
Hell, if it keeps staying this cold in Des Moines (hasn't been above 30 in a week and a half, with lows in the single digits or negatives for the same time period) I might ask Al Gore to bring some of his global warming to Iowa. This heat bill is gonna kill me!
Hell, if it keeps staying this cold in Des Moines (hasn't been above 30 in a week and a half, with lows in the single digits or negatives for the same time period) I might ask Al Gore to bring some of his global warming to Iowa. This heat bill is gonna kill me!
#34
RE: Global Warming
I figgured that this would degenerate into a debate over global warming, oh well. sure its cold now but what about the months of Dec & most of Jan???? gw creates more erratic weather, colder cold, but also much hotter hot.
anyway, how it has impacted me--my family always hunts the late muzzy season, few other people out and lots of snow. Not this year, not any accululation where we hunt in NE iowa all the way to the end of the season Jan. 10th. This is a major first, we have not had that in over 10 years for sure. The last few years also have been very scarce in the snow department, only a few days of snow on average in this same 3 week season in the last 5 years.
anyway, how it has impacted me--my family always hunts the late muzzy season, few other people out and lots of snow. Not this year, not any accululation where we hunt in NE iowa all the way to the end of the season Jan. 10th. This is a major first, we have not had that in over 10 years for sure. The last few years also have been very scarce in the snow department, only a few days of snow on average in this same 3 week season in the last 5 years.
#36
RE: Global Warming
ALL I NEED is for 1 scientist to PROVE that it exist because of man.
CAN NOT BE DONE.....................Therefore it a theory that has collected a politcal agenda drivenfollowing for various reasons.
This does not mean that those of us that disagree with global warning and/or it's affects are against protecting the planet.I believe we need to regulate polution but next time you want to blame Americans,I would suggest you check out all the SOCIALIST and COMMUNIST countries first.They are the ones that are unregulated and Americais a part of the solution,NOT THE PROBLEM.
CAN NOT BE DONE.....................Therefore it a theory that has collected a politcal agenda drivenfollowing for various reasons.
This does not mean that those of us that disagree with global warning and/or it's affects are against protecting the planet.I believe we need to regulate polution but next time you want to blame Americans,I would suggest you check out all the SOCIALIST and COMMUNIST countries first.They are the ones that are unregulated and Americais a part of the solution,NOT THE PROBLEM.
#37
Join Date: Dec 2006
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RE: Global Warming
ORIGINAL: Illinoisbow
it seems to me that most people don't believe in global warming during the winter time, but when summer rolls in it's a different story.
it seems to me that most people don't believe in global warming during the winter time, but when summer rolls in it's a different story.
Wanna know the reason summer seems so hot? Because it's been a whole fall, winter and spring since we had hot weather and we forget how hot it gets.
#38
Join Date: Jan 2007
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RE: Global Warming
i for one will gladly give up my car and ride horses and take my family around in enclosed buggys progress isnt always a good thing dont get me wrong theres alot of goodies id miss if i had to live back in time but food didnt have 10 things listed that i cant pronounce grew what they needed and traded others for what they didnt grow the good ole days
#39
Join Date: Dec 2006
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RE: Global Warming
ORIGINAL: JoeRE
I figgured that this would degenerate into a debate over global warming, oh well. sure its cold now but what about the months of Dec & most of Jan???? gw creates more erratic weather, colder cold, but also much hotter hot.
I figgured that this would degenerate into a debate over global warming, oh well. sure its cold now but what about the months of Dec & most of Jan???? gw creates more erratic weather, colder cold, but also much hotter hot.
Makes about as much sense as the rest of the logic used to support Global Warming.
#40
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 163
RE: Global Warming
I believe there is such a thing as "Natural" global warming. I believe the "man made" global warming scare is a political ploy from the left wing extremists in this country. The earth is naturally warming and probably always will...at the same time there are areas that seem to be getting colder too. But we don't hear about these, do we?
right now the western part of the country has seen a tough winter season and the northeast has gotten its' share off single digits.....the libs need to take a back seat and shut up IMO.
right now the western part of the country has seen a tough winter season and the northeast has gotten its' share off single digits.....the libs need to take a back seat and shut up IMO.