soarkrebel

Skeeter i may be busy this weekend. i built a new penthouse top for my "texas stand" as everybody calls it. i need to get the thing up there and welded on. then i have to plush it out for those long days watching the edge of my 40 acre deer stand. oh it is nice in december.

yeah i found it funny about hanson but then i thought about it , a a farmer living a simple life all the sudden he is in every magazine ,outdoor tv show and hunting shows all over the place. i don't how it would be .they say the grass isn't always greener on the other side and be careful what you wish for you may get it .

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skeeter 7MM

Hey Soarkrebel, you guys ain't got VCR's and blank tapes down south? Get one of the kids to program it for you and watch in the night when your dreaming of your hours in the towers<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>!

Oh you know what I would take the other side of the fence grass. Not for the money or publicity....just the deer on my wall and the Worlds Number 1 gold plate beside it. But I agree one minute Joe blow, the next MR. BIG from BIGGER, Saskatchewan. Kind of ironic isn't it the biggest whitetail was killed in Biggar, things that make you go UMMMMMMM! &quot;The sign outside says; New York is Big but this is BIGGAR&quot; Now it is coupled with a huge statue on the buck and the slogan &quot;HOME OF THE WORLD RECORD TYPICAL WHITEAIL BUCK&quot;. The town gets huge tourism, just b/c of that deer, so really a win for the local economy to boot.

soarkrebel

I ended up seeing just a little of the show skeeter. i got rained out and it looks like i will tomorrow also. great thing about arkansas is that the gun season runs like 6 weeks.
i hate to get my welder all wet so i'll wait unless i get a wild hair tomorrow. i can still hunt the stand just not as comfortable as i will be able to. my son will probably be in it saturday morning and i will be in a thicket about 30' up. i love thickets and climbers . we got one that last year would have gone easy 140 that is most likely still alive and i want him. he won't be easy i will bet you. the thickets are the place to kill him. i only saw tracks but my buddy who hunted south texas and killed a couple of 130 +'s said he put anything he ever saw down there to shame. i think i found some of his rubs , i hadn't told anybody here, thick trees . he is at least 20&quot; inside. the biggest spread i have seen taken in my area was 23' and good mass . but he was killed in jan during a muzzle loader season when all the yahoos had gone home. oh he scored 157 i think. we have some decent ones here but they are smart SOB's. and they don't weigh 300+!

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skeeter 7MM

Soarkrebel, yeah I had to miss it, asked the wife to set the tape and only caught Blanton beaking about the &quot;BODY SIZE&quot; of his dink 4x4. Oh well, catch the rerun.

Sounds like you have a nice pad and a good spot. You know I may live in the land of milo and big bruisers, but I know many guys who would love to hang tag on a 157. That is a good deer anywhere. Body size, who cares. Tagged big bucks that weighed in 225-250 and yet some smaller racked buggers that would tip 300 easy, we don't include weight when we tell the story...nobody up here cares if it was jackrabbit with one leg, as long as he got big bones on his head......damn fine deer son!!!!!!! You can't mount roasts and the freezer in the livingroom isn't consider a trophy room.

Different breed eh! <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

Good luck to you and the boy in your house on stilts.

soarkrebel

I think arkansas could be a sleeping giant when it comes to big deer. years of people killing the young bucks only took a toll. they implemented a three point rule and the quality has really gone up. where years ago a guy bragged he killed a little fork horn now you hear of 140 to 160 + bruisers being taken. WHY? age! i believe.
nutrition is important but age is what puts horn on the head.
A vet. has a 15 year old buck in a pen in camden . buddy when he was 5 to 9 y/o he was a monster. a local deer that was raised in a pen. now my cousin in law had the monster. i would bet he was 350 easy but his rack MY GOD!!!!!!!! he was an 8 pt until he was i think 5 then he went wild non typical. you ever seen the 30 -30 buck? i saw the sheds on a mount of him. this deer would hurt him . kevin found him as a fawn in high school and raised him. he used to sleep on his bed . thought he was a dog or something. i don't recall how many scorable points he had but it was like 30 . tines everywhere. but what got me was his bodie would swell up like a donkey. he would walk stiff leg everywhere. he had a pen of course but he wasn't that aggressive.
These both are from here. but i think as a buck ages he begins to learn how to pattern himself to stay alive. thats why i like the thickets. thats also why i think scents don't always work. the more does that are available to breed the less they will respond to scents. why leave one hot one for another until your done.
you know there was a kid that killed a large nontypical in the white river refuge a few years back. now i hear everybody wants to hunt there.
I also worry that if big ones become more common our hunting will become a price war. these hold your hands outfitters will outprice us on our hunting ground.
look at sask. a few years back who really thought of going up there to that refrig. country ? i didnt even know they had deer in sask until milo.
i'll keep my peaceful little place .(well we have a few rednecks we have to run off ever once in awhile)

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bowboy61

I am new to this forum and computers for that matter. It is interesting reading the wide variety of theories and ideas here.I am no expert, biologist or any such thing but I have been hunting for 33 years in basicly the same area and was lucky enough to have a grandfather that was a cattle breeder/farmer/hunter, we would go out and watch deer for hours on end. He would collect dirt from scrapes before rut started and store it until mid summer then start making moc scrapes in late summer, when a deer starts using them it becomes a central marking area for the local deer, does will also urinate on these scrapes during summer the more the better. then right before the rut bucks start making there own scrapes to single each other out and then when they have established there presence they start searching each other out and fight for dominance, If there is more than 1 mature buck using the same scrapes and they will also keep checking them for signs of estrus thats why the more does that visit the scrapes the better and by introducing scent from other scrapes into one you can force that buck into daylight searches for the mystery bucks and if all works right you will be waiting for him. I have used the hawgs scents for starting the process then transfer dirt from other areas in oct, it saves alot of money and you get the same effect.This is the results of the scrape setup I use, this is the 4th trophy I have taken with this method. with a little scouting in late spring for these big bucks comfort zones and setting up close to that area you can take these big boys with confidance.

skeeter 7MM

soarkrebel, what you never knew about sask before Milo? Well actually it's true many didn't, but we have been the meca for whitetails for trophy whitetail hunters well before Milo.

You know their are big deer everywhere, the trick is getting them. I have seen hawgs all over this vast province. Some areas have more than other due to cover, food source, etc but still you never know.

Funny thing about an area that produces a big buck, everyone wants in after the fact.

I hope you get you or the boy one of those sleeping giants...then rub my nose in it....I will be calling you come hunt SOUTH ARK.


Bowboy, welcome to the board. good ideas, thanks