A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
02-07-2006, 05:16 PM
#11
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !dd
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02-07-2006, 05:54 PM
#12
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Paradise
Posts: 23,427
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
A nice letter with damage control as a major focus. He knew it wasn't an ethical hunt but did it anyway. I feel sorry for him because this will haunt him and reduce his TV public appeal. Trying to spin his way out of this mess only makes it worse. When you are a celebrity or public figure one bad move can ruin your reputation. I wish all states and provinces would outlaw canned hunts. In addition, I hope all businesses selling advertising from these operations would take the high road and not do business with them.
02-07-2006, 05:58 PM
#13
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SWANSEA SOUTH CAORLINA
Posts: 101
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath
Well lets just for a minuite ASSuME that Jimmy thought (duh) that he was on a 1200 acre piece of high fenced porperty ...and lets ASSuME that he had no earthly ideahe was in a shooting pen ... if that is the case I would also have to ASSuME that he did no scouting for himselflike a good hunter would do because had he done that he would have had to stumble over the other fences there.... unless he climbed right inside the gate and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !
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ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !dd
dd
02-07-2006, 06:00 PM
#14
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: chickenjohn42
I do not want to start word war ,that't not my thing ,I have watched a lot of huntingwith and high fence hunt's and never sawa hunter do any scouting ,the guide say's get in the blind and we will pick you up later.[&:][&:]
ORIGINAL: DoctorDeath
Well lets just for a minuite ASSuME that Jimmy thought (duh) that he was on a 1200 acre piece of high fenced porperty ...and lets ASSuME that he had no earthly ideahe was in a shooting pen ... if that is the case I would also have to ASSuME that he did no scouting for himselflike a good hunter would do because had he done that he would have had to stumble over the other fences there.... unless he climbed right inside the gate and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !
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ORIGINAL: timbercruiser
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
If Jimmy was told it was a 1200 acre pen then I can see how it would be impossible to know exactly what the acerage was. If there were cross fences somewhere in the property he still couldn't know how many acres he was hunting on unless he GPS'ed the whole thing. No drugs in the meat? Sounds like the PETA people and others saw that they had someone in the public spotlight and tried to make a big story about it. I have no personal knowledge about the type of facility Mellar has, nor do I know how legal the facility was in that state. I assume a jury will or has decided that. To critique Jimmy Houston based on what I have seen thus far is something I won't do. I tried to load the links in another thread, but as I am on dial-up it would not load.
and if YOU believe THIS story please contact me because I would like to sell you a hunt for the elusive Easter Bunny !dd
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02-07-2006, 07:07 PM
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: palm bay fl
Posts: 4,504
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
like i replied to him.......i still feel he is full of it and the only reason i think he made a statement was cause he got caught...but i also know God does everything for a reason, hopefully he'll become an advocate for fairchase hunting...this is his oppurtunity to do right by the animals we love.
02-07-2006, 07:14 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wilmington NC
Posts: 4,919
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: huntnma
like i replied to him.......i still feel he is full of it and the only reason i think he made a statement was cause he got caught...but i also know God does everything for a reason, hopefully he'll become an advocate for fairchase hunting...this is his oppurtunity to do right by the animals we love.
like i replied to him.......i still feel he is full of it and the only reason i think he made a statement was cause he got caught...but i also know God does everything for a reason, hopefully he'll become an advocate for fairchase hunting...this is his oppurtunity to do right by the animals we love.
02-07-2006, 07:43 PM
#18
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: a van down by the river
Posts: 8,939
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
There's always two sides to every story. He has as much right to state his side as NWF, or annonymous internet posters for that matter, have to bash him.
I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.
I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.
02-07-2006, 07:50 PM
#19
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: North Texan
There's always two sides to every story. He has as much right to state his side as NWF, or annonymous internet posters for that matter, have to bash him.
I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.
There's always two sides to every story. He has as much right to state his side as NWF, or annonymous internet posters for that matter, have to bash him.
I noticed a few comments about not scouting in high fenced hunts where a guide's services were rendered. Doesn't that happen in low fenced areas as well? Isn't that why you have a guide, because he's already done the leg work for you. I don't know how many have used guides, I haven't, but I would if I were hunting another state in unfamiliar terrain. That's what they are there for. I hope to one day hunt an elk in the Rockies, and if I ever get that chance, I'll probably have a guide.
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02-07-2006, 08:28 PM
#20
Typical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 866
RE: A letter from Jimmy Houston.....
ORIGINAL: NY Bowhunter
I asked Kyle to get me the numbers of those who sent e-mails and I would call them. I called every number he gave me on Friday, February 3. Naturally several of the numbers were probably PETA affiliated, some were not available or didn't answer, but I did get to talk to eight or ten actual hunters. I didn't ask these guys to alter their opinion or their passion. I simply wanted them to know the facts from me.
I asked Kyle to get me the numbers of those who sent e-mails and I would call them. I called every number he gave me on Friday, February 3. Naturally several of the numbers were probably PETA affiliated, some were not available or didn't answer, but I did get to talk to eight or ten actual hunters. I didn't ask these guys to alter their opinion or their passion. I simply wanted them to know the facts from me.
"Jimmy" are the real hunters the ones hunting $10000 deer inside Bellar's pen or just the one seeing hundreds of deer in four hours from a single stand?
For a guy who just now figuring out how sorry you are about all this you sure figure out quick who the REAL hunters are over the telephone.