A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
06-09-2005, 07:08 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
For the gun....350$
In my mind, judging by the criteria that was stated it looks like there is two choices.
Bolt action.....Savage 210
Single shot....H&R ulta
Both are tack drivers, the only big difference is that the H&R accomplishes its accuracy with the use of a 10ga barrel. That means even though its a single shot, it is about 10-15% heavier than most rifled 12ga guns.
In my mind, judging by the criteria that was stated it looks like there is two choices.
Bolt action.....Savage 210
Single shot....H&R ulta
Both are tack drivers, the only big difference is that the H&R accomplishes its accuracy with the use of a 10ga barrel. That means even though its a single shot, it is about 10-15% heavier than most rifled 12ga guns.
06-09-2005, 03:21 PM
#16
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RE: A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
I see many votes for the 870.
That option can quickly be decided for the buyer. Does he feel that fixed action,(ie bolt action and single action), are inherently more accurate than a change barrel gun? (obviously I do
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Obviously, Remmington does as well. That is why they use a cantilever system on the only 870 that they pruduce that is a dedicated slug gun. They admit that 870's without it, will lose their zero.
That is the first reason why would advise against the 870.
Now lets say, I am wrong and that the 870 should be considered. Then once again I would agree that Remmington would be the most knowledgable source on which specific model to buy. They suggest... the Remington 870 SPS Super Slug 12ga, as the best dedicated deer rifle.
Problem is it cost's over 400$ new. (cheapest I can find it is 435$ new).
That would leave our friend here with next to no money for a scope. Certainly not a "quality" scope as he stated he was looking for.
I just don't see that this as a great choice given the available options.
Disclaimer: this is not meant to offend any 870 owners...after all it is "best-selling shotgun of any type in history, with over six million made"
That option can quickly be decided for the buyer. Does he feel that fixed action,(ie bolt action and single action), are inherently more accurate than a change barrel gun? (obviously I do
)Obviously, Remmington does as well. That is why they use a cantilever system on the only 870 that they pruduce that is a dedicated slug gun. They admit that 870's without it, will lose their zero.
That is the first reason why would advise against the 870.
Now lets say, I am wrong and that the 870 should be considered. Then once again I would agree that Remmington would be the most knowledgable source on which specific model to buy. They suggest... the Remington 870 SPS Super Slug 12ga, as the best dedicated deer rifle.
Problem is it cost's over 400$ new. (cheapest I can find it is 435$ new).
That would leave our friend here with next to no money for a scope. Certainly not a "quality" scope as he stated he was looking for.
I just don't see that this as a great choice given the available options.
Disclaimer: this is not meant to offend any 870 owners...after all it is "best-selling shotgun of any type in history, with over six million made"
06-09-2005, 05:58 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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RE: A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
My 870 Express has to be from the first year they were out, bought it in '87. I expect to have it forever. I just changed stocks and put on a Simms recoil pad to save me from punishment, but not because I had to... I don't think you could go wrong with an 870.
06-09-2005, 07:29 PM
#18
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Location: NW Montana / SW Alberta Rockies
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RE: A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
I have two 870's and one of them I bought new in 72' for $128.00 with a ventilated rib. I like the stock on the 870 other than that of a moss or a browning. The only gun that has out sold the 870 is the SKS. There must be a reason why they have sold so many. Bobby
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06-09-2005, 08:28 PM
#20
Typical Buck
Join Date: Mar 2005
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RE: A 12 gauge to last a lifetime!
Another vote for the Rem 870 express! I own 2...one for bird hunting only(phesant/grouse) and one for deer hunting only. My deer hunting rig has a 2x7 with a rifled slug barrel(cantelever scope mount) on it. For the $$, I think it's one of the best out there and pretty much fool proof to take apart and clean and put back together without any type of manual. For the $$, I can afford to beat the heck out of this gun and really not care about all the scratches and goudges(sp?) that I put in it. Now if we were talking only upland game, that would be a different story.