Great Experience Yesterday. Questions.....
05-06-2004, 11:08 PM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Calif
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RE: Great Experience Yesterday. Questions.....
Bob,
the way I read your story is the bird was 80 yards out and stopped when he saw your dekes.I've seen it happen to many times,it was the dekes that made him stop not your inability to call cause your not a diaphragm user.Sure maybe when he stopped a few seductive or contentment type calls might have coaxed him closer,but the point still remains if he wouldn't have seen the dekes I believe he wouldn't have stopped but wouldv'e held the line in looking for that hen he had heard!
the way I read your story is the bird was 80 yards out and stopped when he saw your dekes.I've seen it happen to many times,it was the dekes that made him stop not your inability to call cause your not a diaphragm user.Sure maybe when he stopped a few seductive or contentment type calls might have coaxed him closer,but the point still remains if he wouldn't have seen the dekes I believe he wouldn't have stopped but wouldv'e held the line in looking for that hen he had heard!
05-07-2004, 08:25 AM
#23
Join Date: Jan 2004
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RE: Great Experience Yesterday. Questions.....
Thanks guys. I have another question for you. Do you think that since this bird was a subdominant bird, the bird that I heard gobbling was a different bird?
Lots of subordinates gobble from afar. I'd guess the bird you heard was the one you saw. Your description is pretty classic subordinate behavior.
Sometimes they'll even gobble if you are close, but will walk the other way. Remember, these guys are scared of a confrontation with another bad boy. The recent butt kicking when they came in looking for love is fresh on their mind. They feel the hormones, but are afraid. They see the decoys, and then they won't come any closer. Fear wins out over hormones.
Hal
05-07-2004, 08:31 AM
#24
Join Date: Jan 2004
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RE: Great Experience Yesterday. Questions.....
Rob (or others), a lot of people have mentioned that they will not call if the bird is within eyesight insofar as not giving away their position. One of the things that makes me think about what I did wrong on this bird was the inability to call. But some people mentioned that I should not have called anyway. What do you think?
BobGobble is right on target. The primary problem was with the decoys, not the calling. Once he saw the decoys, the subordinate bird wasn't coming any closer.
However, calling when he's close typcially causes more problems than it solves, unless you are trying to move a hot, in-range bird to a shootable position, etc. I'd guess that next to decoys, more turkeys have been hung up because of too much calling than any other hunter-controlled variable.
Hal
05-07-2004, 09:54 AM
#26
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Oct 1998
Location: Hughesville, PA USA
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RE: Great Experience Yesterday. Questions.....
ORIGINAL: Bobgobble2
Bob,
the way I read your story is the bird was 80 yards out and stopped when he saw your dekes.I've seen it happen to many times,it was the dekes that made him stop not your inability to call cause your not a diaphragm user.Sure maybe when he stopped a few seductive or contentment type calls might have coaxed him closer,but the point still remains if he wouldn't have seen the dekes I believe he wouldn't have stopped but wouldv'e held the line in looking for that hen he had heard!
Bob,
the way I read your story is the bird was 80 yards out and stopped when he saw your dekes.I've seen it happen to many times,it was the dekes that made him stop not your inability to call cause your not a diaphragm user.Sure maybe when he stopped a few seductive or contentment type calls might have coaxed him closer,but the point still remains if he wouldn't have seen the dekes I believe he wouldn't have stopped but wouldv'e held the line in looking for that hen he had heard!
