In compliance with Section 1 of the Man Law
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Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: In compliance with Section 1 of the Man Law
Nice bow! Been tempted to get one myself, but always talk myself out of it. I love the bow I shoot now, have taken lots of "trophies" with it (both 4-footed and wood/metal/plastic), and it's already got lots of "beauty marks" on it. If I got a $1,200 bow, it would most likely never leave my shop for fear of scuffing it. Oh well.......maybe when I get rich and famous I'll splurge.......
Chad
Chad
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Mississippi USA
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RE: In compliance with Section 1 of the Man Law
Don't take this the wrong way, but the BW longbow's I've shot weren't speed demons. Won't take an ACX to "smoke" one.
The ACX is fast, no doubt about it--one of, if not the fastest trad bows on the market. That means I could miss anywhere from 5-20fps faster.........[:@][8D]
Chad
The ACX is fast, no doubt about it--one of, if not the fastest trad bows on the market. That means I could miss anywhere from 5-20fps faster.........[:@][8D]
Chad
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RE: In compliance with Section 1 of the Man Law
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Don't take this the wrong way, but the BW longbow's I've shot weren't speed demons. Won't take an ACX to "smoke" one.
The ACX is fast, no doubt about it--one of, if not the fastest trad bows on the market. That means I could miss anywhere from 5-20fps faster.........[:@][8D]
Chad
Don't take this the wrong way, but the BW longbow's I've shot weren't speed demons. Won't take an ACX to "smoke" one.
The ACX is fast, no doubt about it--one of, if not the fastest trad bows on the market. That means I could miss anywhere from 5-20fps faster.........[:@][8D]
Chad
I was going to order a BW PLX, but still scared too after your reports. I have high expectations for a $1000 bow. I do want to try one of Chek-mates Crusaders. But really want it to outperform my martins. I heard a 58# crusader really shoots fast.
I heard these ACX were fast but also possibly fagile due to their slim limb design.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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RE: In compliance with Section 1 of the Man Law
I can only give you my own experiences, so take it for what it's worth. I've shot some faster bows than I own now, and I've set my by up for more speed--I didn't shoot it as well. I've shot tournaments where I shot a better score with my selfbow than I did with my longbow--and the selfbow is WAY slower.
There's gobs of variables that come into play--you listed a lot of them yourself. There's also the mental thing--if you believe in a bow, you'll shoot it better. Some guys put more faith in a bow that costs more--not saying you do, but that's just a thing some folks have. I used to know a guy who could shoot the lights out with certain brand names that he knew cost a lot. With a bow that didn't cost much, he couldn't--it was purely a mental thing. I have no doubt in my mind that if he could have been convinced the cheap bow cost $1,000, he would have shot it great too.
I didn't know you were thinking about a PLX. Safe bet would be take advantage of their "try before you buy"program. I liked the new BW longbow just fine--HUGE improvement over the old design, IMO--but to me, performance was very average. I didn't shoot it through a chrony, but it seemed to be noticably slower than my Crusader. It wasn't a "dog" by any stretch, just not a speed demon.
As far as that goes, my Crusader isn't a speed demon either. When I chrony'd it, I averaged 187 fps shooting just under 10 gpp (30.5" draw). Not bad at all for a longbow, but not as fast as some. I can pick up a little more speed with a different (lighter) string, but when I tried that my shooting suffered a little. I could also go with a shorter bow and pick up a little speed, but I didn't shoot the 64" quite as well as I do my 66".
I wouldn't shoot the first two ACX bows I had my hands on (both made by O.L.)--I was afraid to. The limbs seemed downright delicate. I'd heard of some folks unstringing them accidently by grabbing the end of a limb to pick them up. Larry and John have modified the design just a tad--or that's what I've heard anyway--so that may not be the case anymore. I know the new factory in MI is still selling them faster than they can make them.
Wish I had something I could send you to try out--heck, you might not like a Crusader at all. The only one I have is my personal bow, and (sorry) it's not leaving! lol
Chad
There's gobs of variables that come into play--you listed a lot of them yourself. There's also the mental thing--if you believe in a bow, you'll shoot it better. Some guys put more faith in a bow that costs more--not saying you do, but that's just a thing some folks have. I used to know a guy who could shoot the lights out with certain brand names that he knew cost a lot. With a bow that didn't cost much, he couldn't--it was purely a mental thing. I have no doubt in my mind that if he could have been convinced the cheap bow cost $1,000, he would have shot it great too.
I didn't know you were thinking about a PLX. Safe bet would be take advantage of their "try before you buy"program. I liked the new BW longbow just fine--HUGE improvement over the old design, IMO--but to me, performance was very average. I didn't shoot it through a chrony, but it seemed to be noticably slower than my Crusader. It wasn't a "dog" by any stretch, just not a speed demon.
As far as that goes, my Crusader isn't a speed demon either. When I chrony'd it, I averaged 187 fps shooting just under 10 gpp (30.5" draw). Not bad at all for a longbow, but not as fast as some. I can pick up a little more speed with a different (lighter) string, but when I tried that my shooting suffered a little. I could also go with a shorter bow and pick up a little speed, but I didn't shoot the 64" quite as well as I do my 66".
I wouldn't shoot the first two ACX bows I had my hands on (both made by O.L.)--I was afraid to. The limbs seemed downright delicate. I'd heard of some folks unstringing them accidently by grabbing the end of a limb to pick them up. Larry and John have modified the design just a tad--or that's what I've heard anyway--so that may not be the case anymore. I know the new factory in MI is still selling them faster than they can make them.
Wish I had something I could send you to try out--heck, you might not like a Crusader at all. The only one I have is my personal bow, and (sorry) it's not leaving! lol
Chad