20 yard mental barrier
03-21-2008, 08:28 PM
#11
Giant Nontypical
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
Quit shooting so much at even yardages. Go stump shooting and concentrate more on having a good time than on grouping arrows. Never shoot more than one arrow at a target when stumping. See how close you can makeone arrow hit at whatever you choose to shoot. Play around a lot with your distances, really close, really far and everything in between. You'll soon convince yourself it's not so hard after all to hit something beyond 20, or even 30 yards.
03-22-2008, 05:56 AM
#12
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Yup. Reads very plainly... kind of like "bow tuning for dummies".... just what I need.
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Some good reading here - might help with your sister if not your shooting
http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html
Some good reading here - might help with your sister if not your shooting
http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html
At closer distances, you can hit pretty good with less then perfect arrow flight.
As you start getting back, it makes a bigger differences. If you can verify your setup is well tuned, then you know the Indian needs the work.
Steve
03-22-2008, 07:27 AM
#13
Boone & Crockett
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
Actually accurate shots can be made even with very poorly tuned arrows. When I shot the Howard Hill in 2006, I'd only had my selfbow for a short time, and hadn't had a chance to make any arrows for it. I shot my longbow arrows, just for the heck of it. If I did everything just right, they flew ok--but most of the time they were putting on moves that would make a Russian gymnast jealous. I won with those arrows......
The arrows I shot are 75-80# spine. My selfbow "likes" 45-50# spine.
Not to say that better tuned arrows aren't easier to shoot--just that poorly tuned arrows won't always cause poor shooting. Poor form and poor focus pretty much guarantees it most of the time.
I like Art's advice.
Chad
The arrows I shot are 75-80# spine. My selfbow "likes" 45-50# spine.
Not to say that better tuned arrows aren't easier to shoot--just that poorly tuned arrows won't always cause poor shooting. Poor form and poor focus pretty much guarantees it most of the time.
I like Art's advice.
Chad
03-22-2008, 08:22 AM
#14
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Inverness, MS
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
As with all sports, you have to push yourself in order to improve....
Move your base line practice distance to 25 yds.... By that I mean, shoot 80% of your arrow from 25+..... Try it for a couple weeks.....
Its all about perspective and focus, assuming you have decent form.
Move your base line practice distance to 25 yds.... By that I mean, shoot 80% of your arrow from 25+..... Try it for a couple weeks.....
Its all about perspective and focus, assuming you have decent form.
03-22-2008, 09:47 AM
#15
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
ORIGINAL: Arthur P
Quit shooting so much at even yardages. Go stump shooting and concentrate more on having a good time than on grouping arrows. Never shoot more than one arrow at a target when stumping. See how close you can makeone arrow hit at whatever you choose to shoot. Play around a lot with your distances, really close, really far and everything in between. You'll soon convince yourself it's not so hard after all to hit something beyond 20, or even 30 yards.
Quit shooting so much at even yardages. Go stump shooting and concentrate more on having a good time than on grouping arrows. Never shoot more than one arrow at a target when stumping. See how close you can makeone arrow hit at whatever you choose to shoot. Play around a lot with your distances, really close, really far and everything in between. You'll soon convince yourself it's not so hard after all to hit something beyond 20, or even 30 yards.
Seems like you'd ruin quite a few arrows that way. Besides, there's a real lack of "stumps" where I live.
03-22-2008, 09:50 AM
#16
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Even I can understand it
At closer distances, you can hit pretty good with less then perfect arrow flight.
As you start getting back, it makes a bigger differences. If you can verify your setup is well tuned, then you know the Indian needs the work.
Steve
ORIGINAL: LittleChief
Yup. Reads very plainly... kind of like "bow tuning for dummies".... just what I need.
ORIGINAL: SteveBNy
Some good reading here - might help with your sister if not your shooting
http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html
Some good reading here - might help with your sister if not your shooting
http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html
At closer distances, you can hit pretty good with less then perfect arrow flight.
As you start getting back, it makes a bigger differences. If you can verify your setup is well tuned, then you know the Indian needs the work.
Steve
Believe me, I already know that it's the "Indian" that needs the work.
03-22-2008, 10:12 AM
#17
Boone & Crockett
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
"Stump" shooting is basically roving in the woods and taking random shots at random distances--targets can be pine cones, clumps of grass, a leaf, a flower--anything you can focus on as a target (and doesn't have a back-stop that will destroy your arrow). I wouldn't do it with field points though, as they can snake up under grass and leaves too easily (lost arrow). Good points for this are the Judo, Ace Hex blunt, rubber blunts, etc.
This way you aren't fixated on a particular distance--you learn to judge it subconciously.
Chad
This way you aren't fixated on a particular distance--you learn to judge it subconciously.
Chad
03-22-2008, 10:17 AM
#18
Nontypical Buck
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
LBR,
Ahhh, I get it. I've gotta wonder where the name "stumping" actually came from. Was there a time when they actually used to shoot stumps? Doesn'tsound like a veryequipment friendly training method.
Ahhh, I get it. I've gotta wonder where the name "stumping" actually came from. Was there a time when they actually used to shoot stumps? Doesn'tsound like a veryequipment friendly training method.
03-22-2008, 11:47 AM
#19
Giant Nontypical
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RE: 20 yard mental barrier
The term came from shooting old rottenstumps that were soft enough to shoot without damaging your arrows. Must have come from an area where it's wet all the time because stumps around here just don't get soft. Shoot stumps around here and you've screwed up an arrow. Might as well shoot at blocks of concrete.
