Randy Martin

Has anyone checked out this site lately??
Looks like Bowtech is King!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Out of the top twelve bows, 7 are Bowtech!
If I am not misteaken, is that their entire lineup??<img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle>
Randy

FLHunter

Randy,

Hey thats great, obviously your a Bowtech guy. I shoot a pretty fast Darton at 309fps hunting. No disrespect, but the question really is how accurate can you be handling the speed? The long and short of it all is, if your not accurate shooting fast, you just missed it faster!!! Shooting a quick bow is not totally what its all about, but it does have certain advantages if your form is in shape to handle it. Good Shooting, enjoy the speed!

Ky_Bowhunter

Theres no doubt about it. When it comes to speed bowtech is way on top.

Pinwheel 12

True enough, but it really doesn't matter how fast you go past! I played the speed game back in the mid to late 80's, and we &quot;tweaked our bows&quot; and ran ultra-light arrows and regularly got well over 340fps. BUT, the bows had a 8-9&quot; brace height, and roughly 40-44&quot; ATA!! And you know what? They shot great as long as they didn't blow up! VERY accurate.

NOW, you cannot say the same thing about a 5.25&quot; brace height and 36&quot; ATA, I don't care how you sugar coat it them things are some TOUCHY. Been there and done that. I wanna see the technology progress to the point where we can shoot those 8+&quot; brace heights and 40+&quot; ATA's and get that good old 340+ speed WITH IBO-LEGAL ARROWS AND DRAWWEIGHTS AND CORRECT AMO DRAWLENGTHS. 60lbs, 300grain arrow, 340fps with correct 30&quot; AMO drawlength. THEN I'll be impressed. Far too easy to cheat drawlength, brace height, and ATA to push the envelope. Problem is, you can't hit squat with the &quot;rat traps&quot; consistently. Cool to watch through the chrono, but personally I want to shoot at something and hit it, as well. This is not just directed at Bowtech either. There are still quite a few &quot;rat traps&quot; left on the market besides them. (shot a Black Max lately?) Just my own thoughts, P12

BozZ

The new F.B.T. Intensity bow review sounds really sweet on that site !

Randy Martin

Here is what I am trying to get across. Bowtech definately has the edge on speed, and I have never heard anyone say they weren't accurate. I myself shoot a Mighty Mite at 310fps and can keep a 1&quot;, 5 arrow group at 20 yards. Thats 69 pound pull, 29&quot; draw length, and a 354 grain arrow. That aint bad.
I love speed, but that isn't everything. But I think Bowtech has the accuracy to go with it.

akbowhunter

randy i agree with the accuracy and the bowtech. the last 3 years i have been shooting a martin fury {ibo 325} with a lot of practice im able to shoot very accuratly with it it has very simular charistics to the bowtech black knight2 which is my current bow after getting used to the differences ive found it to be quite forgiveing. faster and accurate. im shooting at 29 inch draw, 70lbs and gold tip arrows 140 grn heads 425grn total. im pushing 100 K.E.
Ron

Straightarrow

Ron,

Something sounds wrong with your K.E. figure. To get that, you would have to be shooting that 425 gr arrow at 325 fps. You're a full 1&quot; less than IBO draw length and shooting a 75 gr heavier arrow. Are you sure of your speed? If a Black Knight is that fast, then I'm impressed.

Another question. Can you bowhunt with a 5.25&quot; brace height, if you're wearing heaving clothing? It seems likely that the string would hit your clothing very easily.

Pinwheel 12

Randy-

Yes, Bowtech is king of speed, no question there, AND yes, some of their bows are very shootable,the Pro 40 is a good target bow, the Mighty Mite is an excellent hunting bow. I wasn't trying to put Bowtech down, simply the overall &quot;rat trap&quot; design. A bow with 5.25&quot; of brace just doesn't make it into anyones accuracy book, sorry. Most EVERY other bow on the market will be more forgiving. I do not personally know of another bow on the market today other than the Black Max Mathews that has such a short brace.(unless I missed one or two) It's a dinosaur design from the true &quot;rat-trap days&quot; when bows like the G-force, Alpine Freestyler twin cam, Hoyt Deviator, Golden Eagle Iron Eagle, etc, etc were around, and everyone was hyped-up with the speed craze. Sure a few people can shoot them,(myself included, I won many 3D Tournaments with them over a short period) but not like a 7+&quot; brace bow in the same persons' hands, this is the bottom line. This was quickly discovered over a period of about 3 years or so, and most of those models faded into history. The Black Max and BK2 are what is left, the BK2 just happened to be released a short time ago, but the geometry is the same as the rest.

You'll notice that Bowtech is re-vamping the BK2 and making it easier to handle, and re-designing that cam to give it more valley so normal people can shoot it without tearing out their shouulder. They also offer it with two brace height options. This is a direct result of shooter input. If no-one griped about anything, they would've kept it the same as the original. Kevin Strother is a great design technician, and knows how far he can go with something, and he watches the trends just as I do. The current trend is split and moving in two ways now---some like the longer ATA with as deep a brace as they can get brace with speed (about 7-7.5&quot; currently) for target applcations(more and more of these bows starting to come back into existence BTW), and hunters are liking a very short bow with deep brace for hunting purposes. Unfortuantely there are a boatload of bows out there trying to cover both sides of the spectrum, landing in the middle with mid ATA bows with shorter brace, and by doing this they actually do not cover either end because they are not as accurate as a target bow, and are not best suited to hunting because of their shorter brace(hitting hunting clothes) and mid ATA. (not as applicable to tight hunting situatons)

There are different bows for different applications, and basically you need two to be able to cover each application to it's highest potential. Using one for all may save some money, but does nothing to give the shooter the best option for each format at hand. It all boils down to what each individual feels they need for each application, and whether they feel two bows or one will do it for them. I do predict that you will not be seeing the 5.25&quot; brace height being offered for more than another year or so tops from any company. Just my own thoughts, P12

BowTech_Shooter

Just a note. The two brace options for the 2002 BK2 are 5.5&quot; and 6.5&quot;. Hey a 1/4&quot; is a 1/4&quot; right? Have a good one....