Muzzy troubles
#11
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Muzzy troubles
TreBark, all I can do is go by my own experiences with low end carbons. None of the %^&! things would shoot broadheads consistently. Some of the blasted things wouldn't even tune with broadheads at all, PSE Dominators in particular!
I've spent enough money on the cheap stuff that I could have bought 3 dozen ACC's or 5 dozen darned good aluminums. Got me plenty of high dollar tomato stakes out of my experiments though. Lesson learned. RELEARNED actually. It's a long standing precept of archery that the bow is secondary to the arrows.
All any bow can do, compound or selfbow, Mathews, Merlin or Hoyt, is bend and store energy, then release the energy to an arrow and send it in a particular direction. That's it. Nothing else. After that arrow has left the bow, the quality of the arrow is what determines whether it hits where it's aimed or flies off into the weeds.
Better to cheap out on the bow and buy high quality arrows than it is to spend big bucks on a bow and cheap out on arrows.
By the way... Didja ever wonder just HOW they go about deciding which arrows out of a particular production run get labeled 'select'? They don't tell you that, do they now...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
I've spent enough money on the cheap stuff that I could have bought 3 dozen ACC's or 5 dozen darned good aluminums. Got me plenty of high dollar tomato stakes out of my experiments though. Lesson learned. RELEARNED actually. It's a long standing precept of archery that the bow is secondary to the arrows.
All any bow can do, compound or selfbow, Mathews, Merlin or Hoyt, is bend and store energy, then release the energy to an arrow and send it in a particular direction. That's it. Nothing else. After that arrow has left the bow, the quality of the arrow is what determines whether it hits where it's aimed or flies off into the weeds.
Better to cheap out on the bow and buy high quality arrows than it is to spend big bucks on a bow and cheap out on arrows.
By the way... Didja ever wonder just HOW they go about deciding which arrows out of a particular production run get labeled 'select'? They don't tell you that, do they now...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
#12
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 333
RE: Muzzy troubles
Authur,
I would think that there should be some difference in POI for the two arrows over longer distances, but "mostly shooting low by about 4-5 inches at 20 yards and some of them to the left 3-4 inches" is a little more effect than .003" would have on it. I agree that you should buy the best and straightess that you can afford. That's why I went to the Terminator Select. They are .003 straightness, compared to the regular Terminator, at .006 . To be honest, at hunting distances, I didn't notice any change. All I'm saying is that I don't think that that small difference in straightness is affecting the arrow as much as Bones25 says it is. Being the economy arrow of that line, though, it's possible that his arrow has other defects that maybe causing the problem. I would just check other simpler things first, before shelling out for a new dozen arrows. Great "talking" to you! I always enjoy comparing notes with others here. Bones25 has some great info to now start finding the problem out.
Good luck,
Trebark
Become one with nature...then grill it.
I would think that there should be some difference in POI for the two arrows over longer distances, but "mostly shooting low by about 4-5 inches at 20 yards and some of them to the left 3-4 inches" is a little more effect than .003" would have on it. I agree that you should buy the best and straightess that you can afford. That's why I went to the Terminator Select. They are .003 straightness, compared to the regular Terminator, at .006 . To be honest, at hunting distances, I didn't notice any change. All I'm saying is that I don't think that that small difference in straightness is affecting the arrow as much as Bones25 says it is. Being the economy arrow of that line, though, it's possible that his arrow has other defects that maybe causing the problem. I would just check other simpler things first, before shelling out for a new dozen arrows. Great "talking" to you! I always enjoy comparing notes with others here. Bones25 has some great info to now start finding the problem out.
Good luck,
Trebark
Become one with nature...then grill it.