Low light visibilty stinks!
09-05-2002, 01:53 PM
#13
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
Ill have to agree with FLHunter. Low light in thick woods or cloudy days don't make the peep fuzzy, but unless you're shining a light on your target, nobody that I know of shoots "good" with a bow after it gets dark, just maybe gets lucky one in a while.
Once it's too late to make the deer out at 15 yards, it's too late to be hunting. Sitting in a stand after that can get you trapped there if you stay too long. Deer can, and sometimes do, come into your woods and start feeding and the only alternative to waiting them out to leave is to spook them out, and they can see you after it gets dark.
Just my opinion...
GB
Smack 'em where it hurts!
Once it's too late to make the deer out at 15 yards, it's too late to be hunting. Sitting in a stand after that can get you trapped there if you stay too long. Deer can, and sometimes do, come into your woods and start feeding and the only alternative to waiting them out to leave is to spook them out, and they can see you after it gets dark.
Just my opinion...
GB
Smack 'em where it hurts!
09-05-2002, 02:39 PM
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote>Get real, The peep sight is one of the best things that has happened to archery(Go to a IBO tournament and look at how many shoot without a peep)<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>
Jim, I'm sure that at these tournaments, they are not testing your ability to shoot in very low light at a form that blends into it's environment very well, however, hunting deer will often test that ability.
Get into a heavy-timber treestand, and about 5 minutes before the end of legal shooting time, on a dark overcast day, and see how much of a deer you can see through a peep when the deer is only 5 yards away. I've had this happen and although I was sure my pin was on the deer, I had no idea what part of the deer. I moved my eye from the peep and I could see it's silhouette and the sight pin easily, but could not shoot that way with the peep attached. The peep may be a great aid for target shooting, but it's anything but ideal for many hunting situations.
Just my opinion,
Jim, I'm sure that at these tournaments, they are not testing your ability to shoot in very low light at a form that blends into it's environment very well, however, hunting deer will often test that ability.
Get into a heavy-timber treestand, and about 5 minutes before the end of legal shooting time, on a dark overcast day, and see how much of a deer you can see through a peep when the deer is only 5 yards away. I've had this happen and although I was sure my pin was on the deer, I had no idea what part of the deer. I moved my eye from the peep and I could see it's silhouette and the sight pin easily, but could not shoot that way with the peep attached. The peep may be a great aid for target shooting, but it's anything but ideal for many hunting situations.
Just my opinion,
09-05-2002, 02:52 PM
#15
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
I am going against the grain here but I have to "AGREE" with everyone else on this one. The peep sight just has it's limitaions when it comes to hunting.
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09-05-2002, 05:14 PM
#16
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
LOOSE THE PEEP.. ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE....RED DOT SCOPE!!!
BOTH EYES ARE OPEN, ANYTHING YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN SHOOT WITH EVERY BIT AS MUCH ACCURACY AS ANY PEEP AND SIGHT ARRANGEMENT.
There have been many posts on this subject, but the search feature of this site no longer seems to allow searchs for threads more than 30 days old. Maybe I just haven't found out how to do it, but the bottom line is the same....RED DOT or AMBER DOT 1X SCOPE.<font face='Comic Sans MS'></font id='Comic Sans MS'><font size=5></font id=size5><font color=red></font id=red>
BOTH EYES ARE OPEN, ANYTHING YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN SHOOT WITH EVERY BIT AS MUCH ACCURACY AS ANY PEEP AND SIGHT ARRANGEMENT.
There have been many posts on this subject, but the search feature of this site no longer seems to allow searchs for threads more than 30 days old. Maybe I just haven't found out how to do it, but the bottom line is the same....RED DOT or AMBER DOT 1X SCOPE.<font face='Comic Sans MS'></font id='Comic Sans MS'><font size=5></font id=size5><font color=red></font id=red>
09-05-2002, 06:08 PM
#17
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
Muzzy
Randy Ulmer uses the same peep as you (and myself) , the 3/16 fletcher and he drills them out to 1/4" for hunting. Of course , now they make the fletcher in 1/4" starting this year. Try it , what have you got to loose?
What sight are you using?
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Randy Ulmer uses the same peep as you (and myself) , the 3/16 fletcher and he drills them out to 1/4" for hunting. Of course , now they make the fletcher in 1/4" starting this year. Try it , what have you got to loose?
What sight are you using?
"Nocked,cocked & ready to rock"
09-05-2002, 06:18 PM
#18
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
JDoyle
You're missing the point.
By what you have said, apparently you are ready and willing to state that the string peep sight is the only system that can possibly, and consistently, set and align a shooter's anchor and align eye to pin in order to be consistently accurate..
Yes, many shooters do use peeps when shooting tournaments. Many do not. I have a friend that is a deadly shot and high scorer, both, tournament and hunting. He does not use a peep sight.
Regardless, shooting under tournament conditions is a different ball of wax.
In the end, choice is is always a personal right. But choice is best when based on varied information, negative and positive.
You're missing the point.
By what you have said, apparently you are ready and willing to state that the string peep sight is the only system that can possibly, and consistently, set and align a shooter's anchor and align eye to pin in order to be consistently accurate..
Yes, many shooters do use peeps when shooting tournaments. Many do not. I have a friend that is a deadly shot and high scorer, both, tournament and hunting. He does not use a peep sight.
Regardless, shooting under tournament conditions is a different ball of wax.
In the end, choice is is always a personal right. But choice is best when based on varied information, negative and positive.
09-05-2002, 11:10 PM
#19
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
If I can shoot a target at night with a light on the target,I can shoot a deer at dawn.The light is on the target and isn't any more than a flashlight.They are not much at 20-30 yards and you are still in complete darkness,the light is for the target and not on the bow.I don't like hunting up untill dark because of tracking and other variables,but will do it if situation merits it.
Seems to me that the last coon shoot that I shot was 15 targets and I shot a 148 out of a possible 150.I think that is pretty good.The one before that I won but don't remember the exact score but I didn't drop many.I think that I would have to be crazy to take my peep off because someone says you can't see thru them or get them to stay in place.
Open your eyes and you can see deer in low light or in bright light.It doesn't matter if it is 5 yards or 35 yards.
Why do people think that there aren't low light shots in 3-d.All the ones I go to are in the woods and start early in the morning.I shoot rain or shine and have shot in all conditions at the ranges I go to.
Accuracy can be achieved without a peep but you CAN NOT ahieve as much accuracy without a peep as you can with one,given practice and proper form and instalation.There isn't a single pro that I know of that shoots without one.I do know a pro that tried a no peep for competition but that was short lived.
Seems to me that the last coon shoot that I shot was 15 targets and I shot a 148 out of a possible 150.I think that is pretty good.The one before that I won but don't remember the exact score but I didn't drop many.I think that I would have to be crazy to take my peep off because someone says you can't see thru them or get them to stay in place.
Open your eyes and you can see deer in low light or in bright light.It doesn't matter if it is 5 yards or 35 yards.
Why do people think that there aren't low light shots in 3-d.All the ones I go to are in the woods and start early in the morning.I shoot rain or shine and have shot in all conditions at the ranges I go to.
Accuracy can be achieved without a peep but you CAN NOT ahieve as much accuracy without a peep as you can with one,given practice and proper form and instalation.There isn't a single pro that I know of that shoots without one.I do know a pro that tried a no peep for competition but that was short lived.
09-06-2002, 05:54 AM
#20
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Low light visibilty stinks!
I shoot both eyes open with a 3/16" peep, and have never had a problem with low light. I can see well enough to get a shot, while there's still actually shooting light. I agree with FL also, anything beyond that, it's either too dark, or past time anyhow.
Now when I used to shoot with one eye closed, yes...shooting light rapidly disappears, even with a big peep, long before you could actually still take a shot.
Now when I used to shoot with one eye closed, yes...shooting light rapidly disappears, even with a big peep, long before you could actually still take a shot.