Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
#1
Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
I am about at the end of my rope here. It seems every week i have some new problem crop up and i am getting really really frustrated with it.
I took my Justice back to the shop last week to show them how the cables were rubbing. They inspected them and said they would be ok to shoot. We then reversed the cables in the slide. I have a trophy ridge drop zone with the rope threaded through the hole in the slide. After reversing the cables in the slide the drop away didnt lift the whole way up anymore. It also changed my nocking point slightly. So i adjusted both of those. Now i am getting flecthing contact on the rest again. BUT it isnt on all of my arrows. Some have virtually no marks while others look hideous.
Prior to reversing the cables i had no contact at all on any of my arrows.
The bow seems to be tuned properly, i got a nice bullet hole while paper tuning and the arrows are grouping well, i just have this fletching contact that is aggravating the he!! out of me.
I took my Justice back to the shop last week to show them how the cables were rubbing. They inspected them and said they would be ok to shoot. We then reversed the cables in the slide. I have a trophy ridge drop zone with the rope threaded through the hole in the slide. After reversing the cables in the slide the drop away didnt lift the whole way up anymore. It also changed my nocking point slightly. So i adjusted both of those. Now i am getting flecthing contact on the rest again. BUT it isnt on all of my arrows. Some have virtually no marks while others look hideous.
Prior to reversing the cables i had no contact at all on any of my arrows.
The bow seems to be tuned properly, i got a nice bullet hole while paper tuning and the arrows are grouping well, i just have this fletching contact that is aggravating the he!! out of me.
#2
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mertztown, PA
Posts: 970
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
I think someone associated with Bowtech on this board looked at your cables and said they should be replaced immediately. Keep in mind that some "pro-shop" guys tend to base their opinions on what their personal workload is and what the dollar payoff will be. If it's the shop's fault and they're still insisting the cable doesn't need to be replaced, I'd get Bowtech directly involved. Their customer service is great.
I've got a Drop Zone on a Patriot and the cable is served into the lower cable. Also, it's timed so that the arm moves up when the arrow is about 5 inches from the foward tip. This also means that the arm drops when it's 5 inches from the tip. I suspect you may not be dropping fast enough. Draw the bow and estimate where on the arrow the arm first touches the shaft.
I've got a Drop Zone on a Patriot and the cable is served into the lower cable. Also, it's timed so that the arm moves up when the arrow is about 5 inches from the foward tip. This also means that the arm drops when it's 5 inches from the tip. I suspect you may not be dropping fast enough. Draw the bow and estimate where on the arrow the arm first touches the shaft.
#3
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
in regards to the cables, i am sorta stuck with them until i can afford to replace them. The shop says they are ok, Bowtech doesnt cover strings or cables under thier warranty.
i tried raising and lowering the nock point, and lengthening and shortening the rest rope. Still the same result. I am just confused as to why some arrows touch and some dont. They are all CE Terminator Hunter Selects with stock vanes. I really want to switch to quick spins but not until i get all the clearance issues figured out.
i tried raising and lowering the nock point, and lengthening and shortening the rest rope. Still the same result. I am just confused as to why some arrows touch and some dont. They are all CE Terminator Hunter Selects with stock vanes. I really want to switch to quick spins but not until i get all the clearance issues figured out.
#5
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
Hopefully you've got a standard launcher rest laying around the house. If so, mount it on the bow and tune up with it. Since nothing else has worked, you need to investigate to see if the rest, itself, is the problem.
There comes a time when fashion must give way to function.
There comes a time when fashion must give way to function.
#6
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
that is one question i had Arthur, if i get bullet holes and the groups are good should i be obsessing over some dinged up vanes on a couple arrows?
Could the arrow itself be a problem? I was shooting two arrows, one was contacting the other wasn't. I rotated the nocks on both, same results. I spun the contacting arrow on the table but there was no noticible wobble. I will test 2 different arrows tonight.
I had good groups at 20 and 30 yards last night, tonight i am going to set my 40 yard pin and check my broadhead flight. If the broadheads fly true out to 30-40 yards then i am going to be satisfied since next Saturday is opening day.
Could the arrow itself be a problem? I was shooting two arrows, one was contacting the other wasn't. I rotated the nocks on both, same results. I spun the contacting arrow on the table but there was no noticible wobble. I will test 2 different arrows tonight.
I had good groups at 20 and 30 yards last night, tonight i am going to set my 40 yard pin and check my broadhead flight. If the broadheads fly true out to 30-40 yards then i am going to be satisfied since next Saturday is opening day.
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 9,175
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
First and foremost, the entire point of dropaway rests is to eliminate ALL fletching contact. So, yes, I'd be obsessing about any fletching contact. Regardless of what kind of holes I'm punching in a sheet of paper, regardless of what kind of accuracy I'm getting when standing flat footed in front of a target butt. Maybe it's good when you're using your very best form, standing on solid ground, shooting level with the target, but what's your accuracy going to be like when you're 20-30 feet up on the side of a tree at the moment of truth?
I hate you're having problems this close to opening day, but I'd hate even worse to hear you wounded and lost an animal because you went hunting with malfunctioning gear. If you're determined to hunt Saturday then, at the very least, use the arrows that are NOT getting contact.
I'd still recommend swapping out to a standard rest and at least seeing if it helps. Good luck.
I hate you're having problems this close to opening day, but I'd hate even worse to hear you wounded and lost an animal because you went hunting with malfunctioning gear. If you're determined to hunt Saturday then, at the very least, use the arrows that are NOT getting contact.
I'd still recommend swapping out to a standard rest and at least seeing if it helps. Good luck.
#8
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
well hopefully this problem will be eliminated tomorrow, i am taking it back to the shop and they are replacing the damaged cable for me, then i will make sure the clearance issue is taken care of before i leave
#9
RE: Fletching contact on some arrows but not all?
Problem solved
New cable installed and we ended up tying the drop zone rope into the down cable rather than using the hole in the slide. We determined that once the cables were configured properly the slide didnt move far enough fast enough to get the arm out of the way on the drop zone.
Once he tied the rope into the down cable there were zero clearance problems.
New cable installed and we ended up tying the drop zone rope into the down cable rather than using the hole in the slide. We determined that once the cables were configured properly the slide didnt move far enough fast enough to get the arm out of the way on the drop zone.
Once he tied the rope into the down cable there were zero clearance problems.