MATHEW VS BOWTECH
#11
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
I also think that either would be a good choice. You are getting a bit more speed and KE with the Outback but the draw is a little stiffer, it has a shorter valley and weighs a little more. The Liberty is a bit lighter with a smoother draw but is not as fast.
#12
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
ORIGINAL: pdq 5oh
They are both good bows, and will get the job done. The grips are very different, the Outback being somewhat fat, and the Liberty very slim. There is much more adjustability in the Liberty cam. Draw length, let off, and valley are all adjustable. The Outback has a very narrow valley (nearly nonexistent). It is also a little faster, though a pound or so heavier. I'd expect the decision will come down to what you like better after shooting them both. Either bow would be a very good choice for a hunting bow. For what it's worth, (I know, not much [&:]) I'll be hunting with a Liberty this fall.
They are both good bows, and will get the job done. The grips are very different, the Outback being somewhat fat, and the Liberty very slim. There is much more adjustability in the Liberty cam. Draw length, let off, and valley are all adjustable. The Outback has a very narrow valley (nearly nonexistent). It is also a little faster, though a pound or so heavier. I'd expect the decision will come down to what you like better after shooting them both. Either bow would be a very good choice for a hunting bow. For what it's worth, (I know, not much [&:]) I'll be hunting with a Liberty this fall.
Either way, though, you really can't go wrong. Good luck with whatever you choose.
#13
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Posts: 12
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
Gentlemen,
I am new to this forum, but for what its worth I did a decision matrix using a number of courses of action (different bows) comparing them using a number of criterea such as speed, price, forgiveness rating, AtA length, weight, brace height, etc. The Mighty Mite won out BIG TIME over the Patriot, Justice, the Buckmasters G2 and the Matthews Outback.
I have not finished shooting these bows to add that into the mix, however the decision matrix I used is designed to take emotion out of the equation. Again, it wasn't even close.
Having said all of that, I am not sure I will get the MM as I haven't shot it yet. But if I believe the reports I am getting from friends and other bowhunters, they maintain I will love it. No negative reports yet.
Hope this helps, I guess all of your tax dollars on my Army training didn't go to waste!
I am new to this forum, but for what its worth I did a decision matrix using a number of courses of action (different bows) comparing them using a number of criterea such as speed, price, forgiveness rating, AtA length, weight, brace height, etc. The Mighty Mite won out BIG TIME over the Patriot, Justice, the Buckmasters G2 and the Matthews Outback.
I have not finished shooting these bows to add that into the mix, however the decision matrix I used is designed to take emotion out of the equation. Again, it wasn't even close.
Having said all of that, I am not sure I will get the MM as I haven't shot it yet. But if I believe the reports I am getting from friends and other bowhunters, they maintain I will love it. No negative reports yet.
Hope this helps, I guess all of your tax dollars on my Army training didn't go to waste!
#14
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
ORIGINAL: Cavguy
Gentlemen,
I am new to this forum..
Gentlemen,
I am new to this forum..
I guess all of your tax dollars on my Army training didn't go to waste!
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
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Posts: 2,413
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
however the decision matrix I used is designed to take emotion out of the equation.
By the way, welcome to the forum.
#17
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Posts: 12
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
Thank you all for your warm welcome! I was "Light Cavalry", the 2d ACR, now I teach Leadership and Decision making in the Army Reserves.
I should have pointed out that the decision matrix is just a tool for lots of different decisions. The "feel" and look of a bow are important too, just like a car. Which is why I haven't completed my purchase either! I haven't had a chance to shoot each of the bows a couple of times.
However there is one unintended benefit I have found for the decision matrix. I can take my "data" to my wife and show her all of the homework I have done and how whatever I decide on is a great buy!
I will close for now with this comment. I was surprised that the MM "won out" by so convincing a margin on the analytic part of the decision. I took great pains to use as independent of data as I could get and then checked it against manufacturers web sites. That way everybody's lies were compared against each other (IBO speed, etc).
It is my guess that once you are talking about the higher dollar bows, ALL of them shoot fast and sweet. As my momma said, "You get what you pay for"; well she didn't really say that all that often, but I heard it somewhere. Maybe it was that strip club outside Ft. Benning.... oh well, you get the point.
Sorry about being long winded, we are about to move to the Northwest from Texas and I am getting antsy waiting for hunting season. [:@]
I should have pointed out that the decision matrix is just a tool for lots of different decisions. The "feel" and look of a bow are important too, just like a car. Which is why I haven't completed my purchase either! I haven't had a chance to shoot each of the bows a couple of times.
However there is one unintended benefit I have found for the decision matrix. I can take my "data" to my wife and show her all of the homework I have done and how whatever I decide on is a great buy!
I will close for now with this comment. I was surprised that the MM "won out" by so convincing a margin on the analytic part of the decision. I took great pains to use as independent of data as I could get and then checked it against manufacturers web sites. That way everybody's lies were compared against each other (IBO speed, etc).
It is my guess that once you are talking about the higher dollar bows, ALL of them shoot fast and sweet. As my momma said, "You get what you pay for"; well she didn't really say that all that often, but I heard it somewhere. Maybe it was that strip club outside Ft. Benning.... oh well, you get the point.
Sorry about being long winded, we are about to move to the Northwest from Texas and I am getting antsy waiting for hunting season. [:@]
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
Posts: 2,057
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
Glad you joined us You're moving in the right direction,,, BowTech's factory is in Oregon so maybe you can take a tour of the pro shop and factory there and really get the low down on the show down Good luck with your move!!!
#20
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Kansas
Posts: 316
RE: MATHEW VS BOWTECH
Welcome aboard Cavguy. I don't know which part of the NW you are moving to, but let me just say that Oregon has everything an outdoorsman could want, including some terriffic hunting. In no particular order for archery opportunities we have: Rocky Mtn and Roosevelt Elk, Whitetail, mule, and blacktail deer, pronghorn, cougars (lots), bears (lots and lots). And that is just the big game. The seasons are generous and the terrain goes from temperate rain forrest to high dessert, with all things in between. Washington is about the same, just a bit further north. Have a great move!!!!
JMAC
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