Winger

I just don't know what to think of all the nonsense lately. I have been more or less a Hoyt-only person for some time now. Most other brands have not really interested me. I can't buy one of everything anyway like some seem to be able to do (because I actually like being married). Studied and deliberated forever last year and ended up with a Vortec w/ redline cam. Shot the bow reasonably well, but never great. Made it through the season with it, took 3 deer ... but decided I was not satisfied. (if anyone wants a nice Vortec, contact me <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>) Started looking at this year's models. Shot a Havoctec and I must tell you it shot like a dream, much better than I would have expected. I began scheming on shooting the Cybertec and then making the decision between the two. And THEN, here we go .... Frank defects to try something new <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>... All this talk about Bowtech this and Bowtech that, I began to read with interest. Patriot comes along and everyone was singing the praises. Had never even seen a Bowtech bow in person, but learned of a dealer a mere 40 miles away. Went down today and what did he have? A brand spanking new Patriot with infinity cam, still in the box. Though I didn't have time to shoot it today, I was able to draw it and generally scope it out real good. I gotta tell you my perceptions. There are a lot of discussions on here about quality of this bow and that bow and on and on ... never gave all that a lot of thought. On this point, however, the Bowtech really surprised me. Overall fit and finish of the Patriot I looked at is a notch above my Vortec. Absolutely NO gaps on either sides of the cam or idler, limb pockets and limbs all matched up perfectly, limbs and risor machined out perfectly, dipped finish without a flaw I could see, Winners Choice string and cable ... couldn't find a thing I didn't like. Will be shooting it Monday or Tuesday and most likely purchasing it (regardless of dealer protectionism or hidden warranty exclusions <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>). I probably said a lot here to not say much of anything, but was compelled to relay my perceptions on the apparent quality.

Winger

Winger

Forgot to add that, as many have reported, I didn't love the grip. It's not the best, but not the worst either and I can probably adapt. Okay, I will shut up now....

Winger

JeffB

All I can say is..


HOLY CRAP-A-RONI BATMAN!!

Slobber...

JeffB <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Matt / PA

DOUBLE-HOLY-CRAP-A-RONI! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

BowTech_Shooter

We set the hook on another one guys! Just kidding.. BowTech does put alot of time and money into making a very high quality bow. One thing that stands out to me is the fact that they are the only bow company using Winner's Choice strings versus all the others they could use but don't. They figure why put a $5.00 string on such a top notch bow. All the components are very high quality for a better fit and finished product.

Arthur P

But does it come in 33&quot; draw???

JeffB

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Arthur,

They don't have 33&quot; draw as far as I know..the PRO-40 goes to 32&quot;. W/ the Infnity cam you could make it do 33&quot; but it would have about 90% letoff, and have a valley an inch wide (which might be right up your alley..hee hee). Of course you could shoot a loop and shot the riser (which I suspect most people would rather do anyways..that would put you in the 33&quot; neigborhood w about 70-75% letoff.

JeffB

Arthur P

I've played the game of using long loops and modifying my form and this and that in order to shoot a shorter draw. My true draw is really 34&quot;, but am able to get comfy at 33. I've come to realize that 32 is just too short. I can shoot that short pretty well at times, but do rotten at other times. Can't stand the inconsistency.

Looks like I've dodged a bullet! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

JeffB

Arthur,

Wow...34&quot;..I thought 33&quot; was your true draw w/out the loop!

I think Martin still makes some 34&quot; draw bows don't they? And PSE's custom shop could build you one I'm sure on one of the less expensive risers like the Dakota (though they charge about a hundred and fifty smackeroos on top of the base model)

I think Reflex is making the Caribou again this year (The 46&quot; e-wheel bow that Chuck Adams shot for awhile)..they might make 34&quot; and they are (or were) under $500.

And you must have to shoot a 80&quot; longbow to keep it from stacking!

I also know of a shop around here that has some old (new) Super Slam Legacy's and Super Stars that might be 33-34&quot; (Control cams I believe..possibly E-wheels on some). They don't have an archery guy working there anymore, and are a bit &quot;stuffy&quot;, but if you are interested I can stop by sometime, take a look at em for ya in more detail, and ask If they would ship one out to ya. If they had some shorter draw models, I would have bought one by now for a finger shooting bow.

JeffB

BowTech_Shooter

I'm pretty sure Wheeler Archery makes a bow or two with a 33&quot; and 34&quot; draw. I'm not sure if it's the single cam (they license form BowTech) or his dual cam design. Maybe worth looking in to for that long of a draw.