CG

Well I shot the MM VFT, Liberty, Extreme VFT, and the Pat Dually. My observation is how little difference there was in the bows........Trust me that is not a criticism. I loved how they shot. But I could tell very little difference between shooting the Liberty and the MM or Extreme. Cam roll-over was a little smoother with the Liberty and it also had slightly less recoil but the difference had very little affect on shootability. My favorite of them all was the Pat dually....very smooth drawing and SMOKING fast. Pretty quiet for a dually also. The thought of shooting a 525 gr. arrow in the 260-270 fps range is VERY intriguing!

Right now I'm having a serious dilemna......I LOVE my MQ1......but the Extreme VFT and Pat Dually have me drooling (neither was as quiet as my MQ1 but both could come close with some tweaking BUT THEY ARE WAY FASTER!!!!)!! On top of that, the Bowtech support on this sight is very valuable to me and my decision (as it should anyone considering a new bow). PLUS after the BS Mathews has been pulling, I'm not a big fan of theirs..........BUT I LOVE MY MQ1!!!!!! What to do?? What to do????

hdsanders

Have the best of both worlds, keep your MQ1 and buy a new Bowtech.

pdq 5oh

cg, give in to temptation. Get the Patriot Dually, you won't be sorry. I guarantee it.

hdsanders, we were typing at the same time. Very good idea.

PABowhntr

I agree. Buy the new bow and keep your MQ1. It is always nice to have a backup....plus, if you change your mind somewhere down the road then you can still one and have the other to use.

Interesting observation too. The more I think of it the more I think you are right in commenting on how they all feel the same....surprised you picked the Pat dually though...

CBM SC

I agree !! I gave my MQ-1 to my father ......but wish I'd have just bought him a bow .....and kept my MQ-1 !!

I love getting new stuff .......but would like to have my MQ-1 more accessable !
At least it's not gone !! []

500 fps

CBM SC,

I'll be at Scott Dault's archery shop from about 10:00 to 12:00 on Saturday morning if you would like to shoot some Bowtech's. It is off Exit 108 on I-95

Antler Eater

I still haven't had a chance to shoot the 04 Pat Dually. When I called they didn't have them. Then the weather got so bad it made travel nearly impossible.[:'(] We are getting blasted again today so I couldn't get out if I had to. []

I did shoot the 03 Pat Dually last year and was intrigued by the bow. Unfortunately I didn't get to Chrono it with my 500 grain arrow to compare actual speeds with my 03 Hoyt Ultratec.

A couple of questions come to mind.

CG I know you are an avid (and quite successful I might add [:-]) elk hunter so I can see where the extra speed hence KE would be very appealing. I don't know your draw length or the poundage that you shoot so I was wondering if one actually would fall into that 260-270 fps with a 525 grain arrow with a normal hunting setup i.e. peep, loop and/or nock, and string silencers?

I would be interested in hearing from some Pat Dually owners with actual numbers and the specs of their setups.

PABowhntr

Antler Eater,

I dug this up from my review of the Pat DC last year.....

That was with a full setup on the string if I remember correctly....peep sight, brass nockset and rubber eliminator button.

Throw another 100 grains on there and you are talking about speeds in the 274-276 fps range.

Antler Eater

Much appreciated PABowhntr. Thank you. [:-]

So if we drop the draw length down an inch would it be fair to say we would be in the 264-266 range?

Any 28-29" draw length Pat Dually shooters out there with actual speed numbers for a 500 grain arrow?

CBM SC

Thanks 500 fps !! Just bought a Mathews but still wouldn't mind shooting the Bowtechs and meeting some new folks........if I can work it out I'll come by !!