need arrows for 90 lbs bow
#11
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Join Date: Dec 2003
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RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
65# draw will make them just as dead as 90#. Dead is dead.
#12
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lingle WY USA
Posts: 527
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
C'mon! Leave the kid alone....if he wants to shoot 90# it is his perogative!!! He didn't whether or not we approved. If you don't have an answer for his question then don't post!!
The Goldtip Big Game are stiff buggers and I've shot them out of 85# bows and they were even stiff for that (27 1/2" @ 29" draw).
The Goldtip Big Game are stiff buggers and I've shot them out of 85# bows and they were even stiff for that (27 1/2" @ 29" draw).
#13
Typical Buck
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Greenfield, IN
Posts: 953
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
A 90# bow doesnt' mean **** if you can't hit the broad side of a barn. 90# is not going to increase your effective range... will prolly make you even less accurate.. esp w/ 10 layers of hunting clothes and sitting in the freezing cold for 10hrs straight. I used to shoot a 80# bow back in the 90s when you had to if you wanted to get the arrows up were our 60-70# bows of today are. This is nothing more than trying to be macho and pull more than everyone else.
When I was a teenager I had a Pearson Spoiler that a was a "55-70#" draw.. so I started low and cranked it up as I got stronger. When I got it maxed out I was at the bow shop and had them throw it on the scale to see if it was really at 70#... well it took 2 guys to pull it down and the scale read 86#... the bow blew up 2 weeks later. I had extreme issues w/ vibrating sights, cable guard, and other accessories loose all the time... no matter what I did to battle the situation.
Why not shoot a 70# bow that you can easily draw at moments notice after sitting in the tree stand for 10hrs. Most shots are at 10-25yrds anyways right? Just my $.02... take it for what it's worth.
When I was a teenager I had a Pearson Spoiler that a was a "55-70#" draw.. so I started low and cranked it up as I got stronger. When I got it maxed out I was at the bow shop and had them throw it on the scale to see if it was really at 70#... well it took 2 guys to pull it down and the scale read 86#... the bow blew up 2 weeks later. I had extreme issues w/ vibrating sights, cable guard, and other accessories loose all the time... no matter what I did to battle the situation.
Why not shoot a 70# bow that you can easily draw at moments notice after sitting in the tree stand for 10hrs. Most shots are at 10-25yrds anyways right? Just my $.02... take it for what it's worth.
#15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
Posts: 2,057
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
Let him have his fun I used to hunt with an 86 pound PSE Vector and 2419's with those big old Snuffers that weighed 190 something grains!!! It was a fun and effective set up and sure tore up the ground after zipping through a whitetail. The 2419's will make your 90 pound Extreme VFT a deadly quiet hunting tool and are very durable.
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Andover N.J. USA
Posts: 124
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
If you are useing aluminum, 2419s. Carbon GoldTips 7595 work great for me with weight tube inserts and 5" fletching. If you can find any the old Graphflex worked great with heavy draw weights.
bmott
bmott
#18
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 259
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
You are going to have to spend more time at the range then at the gym to successfully kill at 60 yards. At that range a 90# bow will be of no real benefit. The act of shooting an animal at that distance is something that should not be taken lightly. I consistently shoot 6" 60 yard groups and 60 yard+ shooting is part of my daily shooting regiment.
Here is why..... To get an arrow that spines correctly for that much weight the arrow will be very heavy. A heavier arrow out of a heavier bow will have virtually the same trajectory as a lighter arrow out of a lighter bow.
Let's do an example.
My bow shooting a 425 grain total weight arrow at 280 fps. will have a -91" of vertical drop at 60 yards and still have 62 ft/lbs of engergy. Plenty to blow through almost any critter in N. America.
Your bow shooting a 631 grain 2419 at 280 fps you will have a drop of -90". There is no balistic advantage to going to that weight of bow if you are going to shoot a heavy arrow like the 2419.
Now, if you use a Gold Tip Big Game your arrow weight will be around 490 grains with a 125 grain tip. You will be only dropping -78" or a 13" advantage. However, lots of guys I shoot with have trouble even making a 13" group at 60 yards
Now, the trick to shooting at 60 yards has little to do with bow weight, arrows or speed. It has to do with having the ability to shoot accurately to the distance you want to shoot. This requires hundreds of shots and have an accurate sight setting. It's that simple. A 60# bow will get the job done if you are capable.
I'll let the ethics police hack on you about long distance shots. I just bring the above forth as an educational example of arrow balistics.
Now, I would love a 90# bow, a dozen 800 grain arrows and a plane ticket to Africa.
Here is why..... To get an arrow that spines correctly for that much weight the arrow will be very heavy. A heavier arrow out of a heavier bow will have virtually the same trajectory as a lighter arrow out of a lighter bow.
Let's do an example.
My bow shooting a 425 grain total weight arrow at 280 fps. will have a -91" of vertical drop at 60 yards and still have 62 ft/lbs of engergy. Plenty to blow through almost any critter in N. America.
Your bow shooting a 631 grain 2419 at 280 fps you will have a drop of -90". There is no balistic advantage to going to that weight of bow if you are going to shoot a heavy arrow like the 2419.
Now, if you use a Gold Tip Big Game your arrow weight will be around 490 grains with a 125 grain tip. You will be only dropping -78" or a 13" advantage. However, lots of guys I shoot with have trouble even making a 13" group at 60 yards
Now, the trick to shooting at 60 yards has little to do with bow weight, arrows or speed. It has to do with having the ability to shoot accurately to the distance you want to shoot. This requires hundreds of shots and have an accurate sight setting. It's that simple. A 60# bow will get the job done if you are capable.
I'll let the ethics police hack on you about long distance shots. I just bring the above forth as an educational example of arrow balistics.
Now, I would love a 90# bow, a dozen 800 grain arrows and a plane ticket to Africa.
#19
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Posts: 1,051
RE: need arrows for 90 lbs bow
I don't have a problem with someone wanting to shoot a 90 lb bow. But, it's a mistake to think that a 90 lb bow automatically increases your range. A 60 lb bow will shoot just as good at 60 yards as it will at 40 yards. It's the shooter, not the bow. And 60 yards is too far for most bowhunters to even think about when a live animal is out there.
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