Bowtech questions.....
#11
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 242
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Frank - check out D&S Archery in Barto. They carry Bowtech. The shop isn't very far off of Rt. 100 (beween Clayton and Huffs Church). Shouldn't take too long to get there from Allentown. The owner is a very good bow mechanic, and you are going to like this, their main line of bows is HOYT.
#13
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Matt,
Hmmm, now you have me thinking again (<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). Those speeds you listed are only about 10 fps faster than what I am currently getting.....273-274 fps with the 420 grain arrow and 288-289 fps with the 360 grain arrow.
I do tend to disagree with your comment about the loss in arrow speed by dropping by 5 pound of draw weight because we look at it from different perspectives. In my opinion a 5 lb drop in draw weight should result in a loss of roughly 8-9 fps because I generally use the rule of thumb...1.75 fps for every pound of draw weight either increased or decreased...but I understand where you were coming from as well. I think we discussed this before.
stodr,
Thanks for the tips...I use a slight variation of them myself... Between you and Bowtech shooter I bet you account for a good percentage of Bowtech's sales...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Vic,
If I kept the setup more like a typical IBO test setup then I would probably get the speeds you listed.
Joe PA,
That shop you were referring to....it is much closer to where I live now...and it is the first place I am going to head to try out some of these bows...possibly as early as tonight...
Olink,
Thanks for the tip...that is two that I owe you for now... I only live about 2 minutes from the Northernmost part of Route 100 now so visiting that shop should be a breeze...and considering the lineup that the shop carries I should be able to compare the two companies side by side.....it will save me the trouble of lugging around my current bow to each shop...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Hmmm, now you have me thinking again (<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). Those speeds you listed are only about 10 fps faster than what I am currently getting.....273-274 fps with the 420 grain arrow and 288-289 fps with the 360 grain arrow.
I do tend to disagree with your comment about the loss in arrow speed by dropping by 5 pound of draw weight because we look at it from different perspectives. In my opinion a 5 lb drop in draw weight should result in a loss of roughly 8-9 fps because I generally use the rule of thumb...1.75 fps for every pound of draw weight either increased or decreased...but I understand where you were coming from as well. I think we discussed this before.
stodr,
Thanks for the tips...I use a slight variation of them myself... Between you and Bowtech shooter I bet you account for a good percentage of Bowtech's sales...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Vic,
If I kept the setup more like a typical IBO test setup then I would probably get the speeds you listed.
Joe PA,
That shop you were referring to....it is much closer to where I live now...and it is the first place I am going to head to try out some of these bows...possibly as early as tonight...
Olink,
Thanks for the tip...that is two that I owe you for now... I only live about 2 minutes from the Northernmost part of Route 100 now so visiting that shop should be a breeze...and considering the lineup that the shop carries I should be able to compare the two companies side by side.....it will save me the trouble of lugging around my current bow to each shop...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Eastern PA USA
Posts: 1,398
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Frank:
I was thinking about Olink's post, and I would have to say that his shop would probably give much better service and support than the other one. In fact, I taught myself to do most of my own work including complete teardown and rebuilds due to the lack of real Pro shop skills at the local shop. On the other hand, since you work at a shop yourself, you may not need that service, and may decide to go with what amounts to a "wholesale price and service". I don't think they are open right now since the entire staff is at the show.
Congrats on the little guy on the way. It will sure change things, but I'll bet you are gonna be a great dad! If your wife insists on the name you talked about on the Bowhunting forum, I'd personally insist that it be spelled with TWO T's !!!
Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!
I was thinking about Olink's post, and I would have to say that his shop would probably give much better service and support than the other one. In fact, I taught myself to do most of my own work including complete teardown and rebuilds due to the lack of real Pro shop skills at the local shop. On the other hand, since you work at a shop yourself, you may not need that service, and may decide to go with what amounts to a "wholesale price and service". I don't think they are open right now since the entire staff is at the show.
Congrats on the little guy on the way. It will sure change things, but I'll bet you are gonna be a great dad! If your wife insists on the name you talked about on the Bowhunting forum, I'd personally insist that it be spelled with TWO T's !!!
Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!
#15
RE: Bowtech questions.....
She can insist all she wants...if she won't go for "Hoyt" as his first name then there is no way I am budging on Mathew...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I am familar with the track record of the shop in question. They are more well known for their low prices than for any type of customer service. Ofcourse, I will set it up myself....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
I am familar with the track record of the shop in question. They are more well known for their low prices than for any type of customer service. Ofcourse, I will set it up myself....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Frank:
I have both the 2000 and 2001 Extreme Solos in stock with the higher reflex. The weight difference, with the sand traps, is at least 1/2 pound (+8 oz.). The reflex is about 3 1/4". 1" less reflex for the other model would then put it at 2 1/4".
Edited by - Len in Maryland on 02/07/2002 11:17:16
I have both the 2000 and 2001 Extreme Solos in stock with the higher reflex. The weight difference, with the sand traps, is at least 1/2 pound (+8 oz.). The reflex is about 3 1/4". 1" less reflex for the other model would then put it at 2 1/4".
Edited by - Len in Maryland on 02/07/2002 11:17:16
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Southeast PA
Posts: 242
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Joe, I'm glad you set the record strait on that shop next to the covered bridge. I didn't want to say what you said but what you said is dead on. I think you are right that they are closed until the Harrisburg show is over.
#19
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Len,
I have no measured figures on the 2001 models but I measured the amount of reflex on my 2000 option two last night (after frank got me curious) and from where the limb hits the back edge of the pockets the amount of reflex is appx 1 & 3/8", which honestly suprsied me as the 2000 ES opt2 sports a very mild looking riser.
Perhaps the Sandtraps and/or pre-load are making more of a difference (than the amount of Reflex in the riser) as regards to the brace height differential on 2001 option one and two Extreme Solo's (as from looks alone, the 2001 option two models do not signficantly, if at all, look more reflexed than my 2000 option 2).
Your thoughts? Anyone?
JeffB
I have no measured figures on the 2001 models but I measured the amount of reflex on my 2000 option two last night (after frank got me curious) and from where the limb hits the back edge of the pockets the amount of reflex is appx 1 & 3/8", which honestly suprsied me as the 2000 ES opt2 sports a very mild looking riser.
Perhaps the Sandtraps and/or pre-load are making more of a difference (than the amount of Reflex in the riser) as regards to the brace height differential on 2001 option one and two Extreme Solo's (as from looks alone, the 2001 option two models do not signficantly, if at all, look more reflexed than my 2000 option 2).
Your thoughts? Anyone?
JeffB
#20
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: Bowtech questions.....
Jeff: I went back and remeasured both bows. The 2001 ES with the sand traps is definitely, measured like you stated, about 3 1/4" reflex. The 2000 ES mode is about 1/2" shorter in reflex or about 2 3/4" reflex.
The way I measured was to put an arrow down along the riser from the point where each limb exits the pocket. Using this as a straight edge, I measured from this point to the throat of the grip. This is the reflex. From this point to the string is the brace height. Standard procedure?
The way I measured was to put an arrow down along the riser from the point where each limb exits the pocket. Using this as a straight edge, I measured from this point to the throat of the grip. This is the reflex. From this point to the string is the brace height. Standard procedure?