Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
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Nontypical Buck
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
It is with me... I' m exactly like you in that regard... The less recoil, the better. It' s not that recoil scares me, it just makes it extra hard to relax and trust the bow isn' t going to fly out of my hand, even with a sling. It' s mental, but it is what it is...
#12
RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
I have the same experiences aas Frank. The less recoil, the better I shoot.
Aesthetically, I' ve come to like them (VFT style bows), but really I don' t think I' ve seen many really nice looking compounds (other than the paint/anodizing). For looks, I think a long slightly reflexed riser, with a set of Recurve limbs, and a pair of dual hatchet cams is about as nice looking as it gets in a compound. Unfortunately, I just can' t stand to shoot such equipment anymore .Those style designs are super accurate for sure, but unpleasant (for me) to shoot. I shoot higher poundages and I want smooth; as little jump/recoil as possible while giving me the performance I desire. A bow with traditional limb angles and alot of string and cable length are just too thumpy/shocky for me..unless I get a 50 pounder for targets. I' ve gotten so used to VFT type angles that even my 2003 Hoyts were really starting to get on my nerves, LOL Guess I' ve been spoiled by Patriots, VFTs, Legacy' s and LX' s.
Now..if ya wanna talk pretty..nothing beats a custom longbow or recurve...Cocobolo riser...bocote limbs...some osage accent stripes in the riser..whooooweeeee
Aesthetically, I' ve come to like them (VFT style bows), but really I don' t think I' ve seen many really nice looking compounds (other than the paint/anodizing). For looks, I think a long slightly reflexed riser, with a set of Recurve limbs, and a pair of dual hatchet cams is about as nice looking as it gets in a compound. Unfortunately, I just can' t stand to shoot such equipment anymore .Those style designs are super accurate for sure, but unpleasant (for me) to shoot. I shoot higher poundages and I want smooth; as little jump/recoil as possible while giving me the performance I desire. A bow with traditional limb angles and alot of string and cable length are just too thumpy/shocky for me..unless I get a 50 pounder for targets. I' ve gotten so used to VFT type angles that even my 2003 Hoyts were really starting to get on my nerves, LOL Guess I' ve been spoiled by Patriots, VFTs, Legacy' s and LX' s.
Now..if ya wanna talk pretty..nothing beats a custom longbow or recurve...Cocobolo riser...bocote limbs...some osage accent stripes in the riser..whooooweeeee
#13
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
The only real disadvantage I can find, is that the same axel to axel length bow, with parallel limbs, will generally be heavier. Machined aluminum risers are relatively heavy, at least when compared to limb weight. If weight is important (and it is to many), then the less riser material, the better.
#14
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
OK, I can see your point if you are talking about a significant amount of recoil. I remember putting 3 shots inside an inch group at 30 yards with my old Jennings Carbon Extreme several times, but if I shot very many groups, things would fall apart. That baby would put a hurtin' on your bow shoulder!
Maybe my nerves/brain are too burnt out to notice the difference. I just don' t notice much difference in recoil between the bows I have owned, and the lowest recoil ones weren' t the most accurate (for me). The lowest recoil bows I have owned would probably be 1. Mathews Q2 XL, 2. Mathews MQ1, 3. (real close) McPherson 38 Special, 4. Firebrand Discovery, 5. Bowtech Pro 38 DC. At least for me, the Bowtech can shoot rings around the other 4, especially if you are talking about worst shots in a group.
Maybe my nerves/brain are too burnt out to notice the difference. I just don' t notice much difference in recoil between the bows I have owned, and the lowest recoil ones weren' t the most accurate (for me). The lowest recoil bows I have owned would probably be 1. Mathews Q2 XL, 2. Mathews MQ1, 3. (real close) McPherson 38 Special, 4. Firebrand Discovery, 5. Bowtech Pro 38 DC. At least for me, the Bowtech can shoot rings around the other 4, especially if you are talking about worst shots in a group.
#15
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
BowTech dosen' t recomend backing the limbs off, Mathews does. There is less stress on a parallel limb designed bow' s limbs than on a more verticle limb bow. Look at a diving board, the stress is spread over a longer working area. the more verticle the limbs are on a bow, the more the limb tip is being " pushed" directly toward the limb pocket. There is probably a math ratio that can be worked up that shows the ratio of the riser' s reflex compaired to the limb angle. Say a bow with 7.5 inches of brace with a 44 degree limb angle, 2.5 inches of reflex and 11 inches between the limb pocket and string would be just as forgiving as another bow with a 6.5 inch brace, 28 degree limb angle, 1.5 inches of reflex and 8.5 inches between the limb pocket and string.
#17
Fork Horn
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
It would seem logical that a limb would be able to move forward with more straight-line consistency than a string, which would seem to be prone to all kinds of torque and oscillation. Again, this is just what appears to be logical.
I' m so green at this bow thing but, I' ll throw this out anyway...
These Oneida folks look like they' ve been on the parallel limb/chalkline train quite a while. Again, to this tenderfoot, it looks as if you put straight limbs and " normal" cables and cam(s) etc. on an Oneida riser, it would look much like today latest and greatest.
I hope this isn' t a thread killer
#18
RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
The double recurve carbon limbs on my Accu-Riser II and Super Nova look far better than any parallel limb bow imo.
You guys who think parallel limb bows look better must be the same guys who think the girls look better at closing time when you' re drunk. LOL
Of course, Jeff knows best.
No bow is as pretty as a fancy recurve.
Especially, my Trails End Recurve.
Sag.
You guys who think parallel limb bows look better must be the same guys who think the girls look better at closing time when you' re drunk. LOL
Of course, Jeff knows best.
No bow is as pretty as a fancy recurve.
Especially, my Trails End Recurve.
Sag.
#20
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Brunswick, OH
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RE: Disadvantages of parallel limb technology?
I know this wasn' t the original question but everyone seemed to answer on the asthetics of the design. I think that parallel limb bows like the Bowtechs and Mathews are very sweet looking bows and I may be adding one of them to my collection soon.[:-] I have friends in both camps and they shoot them like they are going out of style with no signs of weakening at any points. Low recoil, speed and accuracy. What more can you ask for?