Distance?
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Allisonpark PA USA
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Distance?
I' m going to use my new 165 lb. croosbowget,i am wondring what would be the farthest distance to shoot from on a white tail, especialy that i am ging to shoot from the ground not from a treestand?
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#2
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
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RE: Distance?
Despite most concerns to the contrary, crossbows are neither more accurate or efficient than a regular compound bow in the hand of an experienced archer. In fact, due to the very short arrows known, as bolts, that don' t weigh near the same as a full sized arrow, they usually have less kenetic energy due to the fact that they don' t maintain velocity downrange. You would therefore not have any advantage, and would be limited to the same ranges as the standard bow shooter, which is usually less than 40 yards.
#3
RE: Distance?
I find that hard to believe Danny. I was watching a hunting video the other day and these guys were using crossbows. When the shot 2 different does, they instantly hit the ground, even on behind the shoulder hits. Seems like they " hit" a lot harder than my bow.
#4
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RE: Distance?
If you chronograph a crossbow, it is usually in the same ballpark as a standard bow. And they usually use 2219 shafts, cut down to the size bolts they need. There' s no way that a 20" bolt is gonna have the same weight, therefore energy, as a 30" arrow of the same size, and traveling at the same speed. Published figures for the fastest crossbow I' ve seen was 320 fps. Most are listed somewhere around 250-275 fps. A regular bow will reach that with no problem.
And while they achieve that speed with a fairly large bolt, it' s not maintained due to the lack of mass. A full length arrow in 2219 weighs 100 grains more than a 20" bolt of the same shaft material. Remember, when figuring KE, speed is important, but without the weight at those speeds, the figures won' t be that high.
And while they achieve that speed with a fairly large bolt, it' s not maintained due to the lack of mass. A full length arrow in 2219 weighs 100 grains more than a 20" bolt of the same shaft material. Remember, when figuring KE, speed is important, but without the weight at those speeds, the figures won' t be that high.
#5
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Location: Piedmont OK USA
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RE: Distance?
Better listen to Danny on this one. This time the boy north of the Red River knows of which he speaketh. Its a very simple principle whether shooting firearms or bows. If you push less weight just as fast it doesn' t hit as hard. Easton has a KE calculator on their downloadable shaft selector software.
My question regarding the hunting video would be where did they hit the does? If shooting with a crossbow you are killing by the cutting action vs. the shock caused by a bullet. The only deer with an instant drop from an arrow that I heard of was a pulled shot that severed the animals spine. Oh well what do I know?
My question regarding the hunting video would be where did they hit the does? If shooting with a crossbow you are killing by the cutting action vs. the shock caused by a bullet. The only deer with an instant drop from an arrow that I heard of was a pulled shot that severed the animals spine. Oh well what do I know?
#6
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RE: Distance?
http://www.hortonmfgstore.com/arrows.cfm
http://www.yorksport.com/facts_about_archery.htm
Here are two websites about energy. I thought a crossbows arrow had to be heavier due to the increased draw weight. I know the speeds are comparible, but if the weight is different, that is where a crossbow will have more energy at point of impact.
http://www.yorksport.com/facts_about_archery.htm
Here are two websites about energy. I thought a crossbows arrow had to be heavier due to the increased draw weight. I know the speeds are comparible, but if the weight is different, that is where a crossbow will have more energy at point of impact.
#7
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Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma
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RE: Distance?
As stated in my earlier post, most crossbow bolts are 2219 shafts, cut to 20 or so inches. So no, they don' t weigh more than a full length arrow, unless you' re shooting extremely lightweight arrows. But if you' re still shooting fairly heavy arrows in a compound, chances are you' re shooting heavier arrows than any crossbow bolt. The crossbow gets by with shooting these " lighter" shafts (lighter from being cut down from 31" to 20" ) because cutting the shaft stiffened the spine sufficiently to be used in a 150 lb crossbow.
#8
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Location: south plymouth ny USA
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RE: Distance?
In central Ny or PA the key is the average hunting shot is less than 35 yards on most days. Due to the heavy cover in eastern states. A good compound can be shot out to 65 yards with very excellent accuracy the problem is a small branch will move the arrow and from a killing shot you can get a wound or lost deer shot. So please make sure you have a clear shot and make it a killing shot.
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