???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
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???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
I have heard that the ZR limbs are not as good as the XT limbs
The only difference I can see is that the ZR limbs are a little longer making the ATA longer
Can you guys shed any light on the differences in the limbs or have I just been miss informed
I am thinking of getting either the Havoctec with the zr limbs for the longer ATA or the CyberTec with the xt limbs
Thanks guys
The only difference I can see is that the ZR limbs are a little longer making the ATA longer
Can you guys shed any light on the differences in the limbs or have I just been miss informed
I am thinking of getting either the Havoctec with the zr limbs for the longer ATA or the CyberTec with the xt limbs
Thanks guys
#2
RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
You might get some differing opinions on this one.
As far as construction goes....The XT2000 are multilayer laminated carbon/glass limbs. They are 3/4 of an inch wide and are recurve style limbs that are "pre-bent" prior to being installed on the bow. This results in what Hoyt calls "Uniform Stress Distribution". In other words, when you draw the bow back and stress is place on the limbs it is evenly distributed to the entire limb...not just one particular area.
The carbon in the limbs makes them lighter and a lighter limb returns to rest quicker during the shot.....which translates into a faster arrow.
The ZR200 limbs are a solid fiberglass limb though they do utilize the same 3/4 inch "limb technology" as the XT2000 they are not tapered over the entire length of the limb nor are they "pre-bent". They are comparable to limbs utilized by most other manufacturers in terms of materials but not design.
As you stated, the only real practical difference between the two styles is the resulting axle to axle length differences. If I remember correctly this year's XT2000 limbs are 13.5 or 14 inches while the ZR200 are closer to 15 or 15.5 inches in length. Last year both the ZR200 and XT2000 were the same length but Hoyt, obviously, shortened the XT2000 limbs this year.
There is a slight difference in speed, but in most cases not more than 7-8 fps, which, arguably, is not that significant in terms of trajectory or kinetic energy levels.
In terms of durability, construction, etc... the XT2000 are more well made. But, I don't think most archers push their bows to the limits that would actually show the difference between the two limbs. In other words, if you are going to be abusing the bow by shooting ultralight arrows with a heavier draw weight or longer draw length then you would probably be better off with the XT2000 limbs. If not then I don't see enough of an advantage for the average archer.
I apologize for mixing some facts with my opinion but that is the way I view the comparison.
As far as construction goes....The XT2000 are multilayer laminated carbon/glass limbs. They are 3/4 of an inch wide and are recurve style limbs that are "pre-bent" prior to being installed on the bow. This results in what Hoyt calls "Uniform Stress Distribution". In other words, when you draw the bow back and stress is place on the limbs it is evenly distributed to the entire limb...not just one particular area.
The carbon in the limbs makes them lighter and a lighter limb returns to rest quicker during the shot.....which translates into a faster arrow.
The ZR200 limbs are a solid fiberglass limb though they do utilize the same 3/4 inch "limb technology" as the XT2000 they are not tapered over the entire length of the limb nor are they "pre-bent". They are comparable to limbs utilized by most other manufacturers in terms of materials but not design.
As you stated, the only real practical difference between the two styles is the resulting axle to axle length differences. If I remember correctly this year's XT2000 limbs are 13.5 or 14 inches while the ZR200 are closer to 15 or 15.5 inches in length. Last year both the ZR200 and XT2000 were the same length but Hoyt, obviously, shortened the XT2000 limbs this year.
There is a slight difference in speed, but in most cases not more than 7-8 fps, which, arguably, is not that significant in terms of trajectory or kinetic energy levels.
In terms of durability, construction, etc... the XT2000 are more well made. But, I don't think most archers push their bows to the limits that would actually show the difference between the two limbs. In other words, if you are going to be abusing the bow by shooting ultralight arrows with a heavier draw weight or longer draw length then you would probably be better off with the XT2000 limbs. If not then I don't see enough of an advantage for the average archer.
I apologize for mixing some facts with my opinion but that is the way I view the comparison.
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RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
Thanks PA and once again you are most informative
Maybe I should have put in my specs as well so I will do it here
draw lenght 28" and being of the OLDER generation I have a draw weight of 60 to 65 lbs
I will leave the 70 plus draw weights to the YOUNGER generation lol
Maybe I should have put in my specs as well so I will do it here
draw lenght 28" and being of the OLDER generation I have a draw weight of 60 to 65 lbs
I will leave the 70 plus draw weights to the YOUNGER generation lol
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RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
Hate to be a stick in the mud, but Frank is right on!
I will say that the ZR limbs tend to have a certain vibration feel that annoys me. LimbSavers should cure it.
If you plan on keeping your bow for a couple or 3 years, go w/ the high end XT's.
Also, if you are already debating the two limb types chances are you won't be happy w/ your decision if you go w/ the ZR's as you will always feel you got "second best". However if the budget is tight, by all means the ZR's are a quality limb.
JeffB
I will say that the ZR limbs tend to have a certain vibration feel that annoys me. LimbSavers should cure it.
If you plan on keeping your bow for a couple or 3 years, go w/ the high end XT's.
Also, if you are already debating the two limb types chances are you won't be happy w/ your decision if you go w/ the ZR's as you will always feel you got "second best". However if the budget is tight, by all means the ZR's are a quality limb.
JeffB
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RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
thanks for the imput guys
Jeff it is not so much that money is tight
I was looking at trying to keep the ATA above or around 34 inches
and if I went for the Havoctec then I would have to have the zr limbs
but the only thing I dont like about the Havoctec is the brace height I am used to a 6.5" brace height
I have not shot either bow yet but the local pro shop has said they have both bows there and will set them both up for me to test shoot
I just wanted some info is there was any quality difference between the to sets of limbs.
On another note if you guys want to come and have a go at some Texas white tails let me know I will put you in one of my favourite spots all you will have to do is get the licence you can even stay at my place for a week or so
Would love to have ya down here and to have Len and Frank in the same room reckon it would be a hoot <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Jeff it is not so much that money is tight
I was looking at trying to keep the ATA above or around 34 inches
and if I went for the Havoctec then I would have to have the zr limbs
but the only thing I dont like about the Havoctec is the brace height I am used to a 6.5" brace height
I have not shot either bow yet but the local pro shop has said they have both bows there and will set them both up for me to test shoot
I just wanted some info is there was any quality difference between the to sets of limbs.
On another note if you guys want to come and have a go at some Texas white tails let me know I will put you in one of my favourite spots all you will have to do is get the licence you can even stay at my place for a week or so
Would love to have ya down here and to have Len and Frank in the same room reckon it would be a hoot <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
#8
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RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
Same room as Frank? You've got to be kidding! I've heard he snores big time!!!!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
The ZR-200 limbs are just as good as anyone else's standard limb. The XT-2000's are a step beyond. I don't see any real problems with the ZR-200's; but, I would put Limbsavers on any bow not already having them.
The ZR-200 limbs are just as good as anyone else's standard limb. The XT-2000's are a step beyond. I don't see any real problems with the ZR-200's; but, I would put Limbsavers on any bow not already having them.
#9
RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
Thanks Len
I will shoot both and see which one is for me
Funny you say that about Frank cause he claims you snore big time <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
But I was talking more of the conversation and or heated friendly discussion lol
But if you guys want to come down the invite is on the table
I will shoot both and see which one is for me
Funny you say that about Frank cause he claims you snore big time <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
But I was talking more of the conversation and or heated friendly discussion lol
But if you guys want to come down the invite is on the table
#10
RE: ???? for Len, PA JeffB on Hoyt Limbs
Ausie Guy,
Thank you kindly for the invitation.
I also appreciate being put in the same company as Len and Jeff. They both have extensive knowledge when it comes to a variety of archery related topics. Both of them have been/or are pro shop owners....whereas I am just a lowly bum who has an extreme fascination with compound bows and bowhunting/archery in general. Though I do work part time for one of the local shops I don't claim to have anywhere near the knowledge of the other two...
...haven't you noticed that we usually don't post in the same threads anymore.......that is to avoid any debates...it can get nasty....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>....
...because when Len gets agitated his Maryland "southern drawwwwwlll" really starts to act up.....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Snoring? Me? Naaaaaaaaaahhh, the wife won't let me...she hits me on the head with a pillow if I start to...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Thank you kindly for the invitation.
I also appreciate being put in the same company as Len and Jeff. They both have extensive knowledge when it comes to a variety of archery related topics. Both of them have been/or are pro shop owners....whereas I am just a lowly bum who has an extreme fascination with compound bows and bowhunting/archery in general. Though I do work part time for one of the local shops I don't claim to have anywhere near the knowledge of the other two...
...haven't you noticed that we usually don't post in the same threads anymore.......that is to avoid any debates...it can get nasty....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>....
...because when Len gets agitated his Maryland "southern drawwwwwlll" really starts to act up.....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Snoring? Me? Naaaaaaaaaahhh, the wife won't let me...she hits me on the head with a pillow if I start to...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>