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Giant Nontypical
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Give up too much speed? That' s a subjective thing you need to decide for yourself, of course, but from 430 grains to 490, you' re only talking maybe 12 fps or so. Maybe 6 fps from 460 to 490. But I think you' re right. The 2314' s will be a little fragile for ground pounding at small game.
Anyway, 400' s always seem a little weak to me, even when the chart says they' ll work on a bow. 340' s have been more consistent shooters for me. I haven' t looked at the chart for your setup, but if you' re getting near the high side for 400' s, go ahead and step up to 340.
At least, that' s what I' ve experienced with the Bemans and Easton Epics I' ve shot.
Anyway, 400' s always seem a little weak to me, even when the chart says they' ll work on a bow. 340' s have been more consistent shooters for me. I haven' t looked at the chart for your setup, but if you' re getting near the high side for 400' s, go ahead and step up to 340.
At least, that' s what I' ve experienced with the Bemans and Easton Epics I' ve shot.
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I just did a head to head comparison of the three shafts on ArchersAdvantage out of an imaginary setup.The setup was similar to what you could expect from a hard one cam cybertec.
2314 495 gr finished weight
ke@bow=61.5 236 fps
ke@40 yards=53.2 219 fps
Evolution 400 439 gr finished weight
ke@bow=60.3 248 fps
ke@40 yards=52.2 231 fps
Evolution 340 461gr finished weight
ke@bow=60.8 243.8 fps
ke@40 yards=53 227 fps
The 2314 and the 400 were to the stiff side of perfect with spine.(practically perfect)The 340 was a little stiffer than I like but was still acceptable.If you increase poundage like you were thinking they would be better but IMO the 400 looks like an excellent choice as is.1 ft/lb of ke isn' t really that much to be scratching your head over.
Now remember these may not be EXACTLY what you will be seing but I bet the #' s are close.
I' ll give you another choice if you want the best of both worlds.Try the ACC Kinetic II' s.If the price doesn' t scare you off then I would think they would be just what you are looking for.
ACC kinetic II(perfectly spined) finished weight 460gr
ke@bow= 60.3 243 fps
ke@40 yards 53.3 228 fps
All the shafts had between 11% and 12.5% foc with the 125 gr heads.PERFECT
2314 495 gr finished weight
ke@bow=61.5 236 fps
ke@40 yards=53.2 219 fps
Evolution 400 439 gr finished weight
ke@bow=60.3 248 fps
ke@40 yards=52.2 231 fps
Evolution 340 461gr finished weight
ke@bow=60.8 243.8 fps
ke@40 yards=53 227 fps
The 2314 and the 400 were to the stiff side of perfect with spine.(practically perfect)The 340 was a little stiffer than I like but was still acceptable.If you increase poundage like you were thinking they would be better but IMO the 400 looks like an excellent choice as is.1 ft/lb of ke isn' t really that much to be scratching your head over.
Now remember these may not be EXACTLY what you will be seing but I bet the #' s are close.
I' ll give you another choice if you want the best of both worlds.Try the ACC Kinetic II' s.If the price doesn' t scare you off then I would think they would be just what you are looking for.
ACC kinetic II(perfectly spined) finished weight 460gr
ke@bow= 60.3 243 fps
ke@40 yards 53.3 228 fps
All the shafts had between 11% and 12.5% foc with the 125 gr heads.PERFECT
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I realize their was a weight discrapancy on the Evolution 400' s.The program has them at 439 gr and the catalog has them at 430 gr.
If 430 gr is correct the #' s are
ke@bow= 59.7 250 fps
ke@40 yards=51.6 232 fps
Very little real world difference but I don' t have anything better to do right now.![EEK!](https://www.huntingnet.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
Everything above is assuming that a d-loop is being used.If not then the arrows will react a bit lighter on spine.
If 430 gr is correct the #' s are
ke@bow= 59.7 250 fps
ke@40 yards=51.6 232 fps
Very little real world difference but I don' t have anything better to do right now.
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Everything above is assuming that a d-loop is being used.If not then the arrows will react a bit lighter on spine.
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The Archery Program or Archers Advantage would be well worth the money.I use Archers Advantage and love it.I have yet to have a problem with getting the correct arrow THE FIRST TIME by using it.You also know exactly where the spine is for you. Knowing if a shaft is a little week or a little stiff can be a huge asset when buying those $100.00 arrows.Little week might shoot ok for a while but will shoot out much quicker than the arrow that is a little stiff.