muzzyman88

Just kidding. Figured I'd get everyone looking.

But I did happen to notice that Bowtech has updated the sight and has pics and specs of it online now.

Drooool............

JeffB

jerk! [:@]








JK of course- how does this bow differ from your allegiance? (other than the obvious like the anodizing and old jennings style split harness)

muzzyman88

Haha....

There are some differences. You mentioned the split harness. This should really alleviate the cam lean associated with the binary/non center pivot bows. They also threw a cable roller on it instead of a slide/rod. The limbs go way beyond parallel on this sucker at full draw. Go to Youtube, there is a pic of a guy shooting it at the ATA show.

JeffB

Hmm...the roller guard should put even more torque into the system (they all do, no matter what brand bow they are on)- I guess the splits are a necessity there. My GT500 is a binary system and has no cam lean whatsoever(?) does the BT cam differ than than the Rev cams?

I'll have to check the vid- I've not shot the allegiance and did not pay much attention to the limbs when was drawing it- The Allegiance seems to be a Liberty or Patriot with Binary cams- would that be pretty accurate?

muzzyman88

The allegiance is more like the Liberty with Binaries. I have checked mine and there is lean in the system at full draw. But the bow shoots lights out for me so I'm not all that worried about it. I think too much is made about cam lean and Bowtech has gotten the brunt of the abuse over it.

Oh, and I forgot the mention that the Air Raid is using a laminated limb. I suspect (hope)Bowtech may go that route with all of their bows in the future, which, will be a huge plus for them.

JeffB

Hmm..OK. I was not aware this was an "issue" with the BTs. This binary business is new to me.

Always a good thing. IMO, there will have to be some "stepping up" made in the field of limbs- for many years alot of different companies big and small have relied on typical run of the mill Gordon coretuff/powertuff limbs-This was fine for awhile. Now with lighter arrows the norm, as well as very high speeds and very efficient big cams, it's just a matter of time before problems become commonplace. Even PSE finally seems to have gone away from their piss-poor compression molded style that graced their bows for roughly 20 years (barring introductory "low performing" bows like the DeerHunter/Nova, where it's not an issue)

Hoyt was really ahead of the curve re: limbs as they got to work on better/improved limbs way back (early 90s) with the legacy, fast flite, and excel lams, and then the carbonites and eventually the XTs. Hard to beat a Hoyt/Barnsdale type laminated limb in the grand scheme of things and they've had many years of refinement on top of being way ahead of the curve as is.

MeanV2

The Air Raid is more parallel than the Ally, It also has a totally different cam which has a rotating mod to adjust draw length. A smooth rotating mod will be available to swap out and again will cover all draw lengths. Add to that a string suppressor.I have owned a ton of BT's and while a few did have some Cam lean it has never been a problem for me.

Eliminating cam lean as much as possible has to be a good thing. As far as the Laminated Limbs, again good move. I owned a Bow that had laminated limbs that had a major delamination, but overall it should be an improvement. Anything built by man can fail, customer service when a problem is encountered is the way I always judge a company.

I don't think you'll be disappointed with BowTech's customer service.

I ordered an Air Raid as soon as they started accepting orders. It should be a heck of a Bow.

Dan

JeffB

You are right- cos I'd be on the phone with Jerid giving him what for!

BT has always been top notch for service, IME- both before and during my tenure with them.

buckeye

I did shoot the Air Raid

muzzyman88

BOOOOOOOOOOO