Pinwheel 12

Len I agree, the older Bemans worked well and better than the earlier AFC's,(funny we still all seemed to shoot the AFC's tho?) then Easton jumped on the bandwagon with their PC. I still have a handful of those dinosaur components kicking around for some of them that I trip over from time to time.

I like the ACC3-60 unibushing for G nocks in the rear of todays' ICS-style biased wrapped designs, they fit quite well and this helps prevent cracking and loose nocks, (the only real weak point I see in todays' ICS system) and almost does basically the same thing as an outsert but without the exterior protection. The front end of them readily accepts a regular insert, so that pretty much takes care of any problems associated there, also. I would like to see them come with a smaller diameter and highly-polished exterior much like the Beman ICS hunters, I think they are on the right track but if they dropped the diameter and added weight I think you'd see penetration comparable to the pultruded designs, especially if they built a &quot;hunting model&quot; that is as heavy as the older pultruded designs, yet kept the ICS design to make them more streamlined. The Beman ICSCH for instance has that extra wrap that adds more weight for more kinetic energy. Even the A/C offerings for hunting nowadays are built up for better downrange kinetic energy, as in the A/C Kinetic for instance with it's heavier aluminum core. I think it will only be a matter of time before they build an all-carbon of a smaller diameter that is biased wrapped and super-strong with excellent penetration capabilities, the trend seems to be heading towards the heavier components nowadays anyways for hunting applications. The only fly in the ointment may be getting them to be that heavy weight-wise without having too stiff of a spine. Maybe 200grain broadheads with 130grain unibushing nock inserts will become the rage to keep FOC constant? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> If they built them around a &quot;G&quot; nock base diameter instead of a supernock, they could also effectively create a much wider diameter range and get them down to quite small diameters! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

CG

I've looked around and can find these shafts for my bow. Easton P/C 6.3, AFC 2400, AFC 2540 camo'd and black, Cabelas SST 240 and Beman Carbon Hunters (Don't know what size to shoot ont he Bemans..any suggestions for a 29&quot; Darton Maverick XT at 74#??). OF all of these which would you think is the best shaft?? The Easton P/C are probably the best deal at $45 w/ g-nocks (FWIW-All of them I will only get with g-nocks). Any suggestions?

&quot;What we do in this life echos an eternity&quot;

Edited by - CG on 01/24/2003 14:47:59

5 shot

CG, I picked up 27 cabelas sst's for 50 bucks. I have only shot them for a few short weeks, and have not been able to get outside much as it is very cold and windy here! I can say that these arrows, sst 240's are straighter and more consistant than My ICS arrows. Total arrow weight for a 29&quot; arrow with 3 4&quot; vanes and 100 grn point is 475 grns. Just about perfect for me. I have found the accuracy excellent with field points and broadheads. I have been shooting them out out of a Wisker Bisquit rest. Three differnt bows all with 29&quot; draw and set between 65 and 70lbs, bullet holes at 3,10 and 15 feet through paper. I don't have enough experience with these arrows yet to say they are the answer to my arrow search, but as for strength, price and consistancy they are going to be hard to beat.

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Ossage

Bias wrap should be the spine nighmare, and linear carbon, as long as it is continuous should be perfect. Such a rapid deterioration in spine during heat is almost certainly the resin system. If so, it may not be a problem that translates to fall.

Pultruded glass rod, however, is often pretty cheaply made, with glass fibers that aren't necesarily continuous after it had been sanded. So nasty you can get slivers from it. If carbon is like that prior to the coating it might also ne inconsistant.

That's the theory, life is often messier.