Matt / PA

Frank,
I think the Patriot is out for you (I knew you were a 31&quot; draw <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) Your still a Gorilla......well at least a Baboon.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Anyway, the Patriot only goes to a 30&quot; draw.....probably a limb deflection problem with that long of a draw on a bow with 44 deg. limb pockets.

I bet you could get a Mighty Mite and throw some 31&quot; BK dual cams on it.......that would be about interesting!Maybe you'd have a 31&quot; ATA bow that would do 340 w/ a 7.25&quot; BH???<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Your only options for BowTech bows at 31&quot; draw would be the following (with estimated speeds behind)Unless you can get the factory to build something.

1. 2001 Pro 38 DC 6.8&quot;BH ....approx 345-348fps +/-
2. 2002 Generation 3.2 w/ 7&quot;BH......approx 325fps +/-
3. 2002 BKII 6.5&quot; BH...approx 345-348fps +/-
4. 2002 Extreme Solo 7&quot;BH......approx 325fps +/-
5. 2002 Pro38 SC 7&quot;BH......approx 325fps +/-
6. 2002 Pro40 SC 6.75&quot;BH....approx 325fps +/-
7. 2002 Pro40 SC 7.75&quot; BH....approx 315fps +/-
8. 2002 Stalker 7.75&quot; BH.....approx 312fps +/-

I'm tellin' ya.....if you shot the Pro38 DC , you'd be lovin' it too! How'd ya like to shoot 330fps at 60#??.....with that draw length you'd do it.
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Edited by - Matt / PA on 01/18/2002 14:51:08

PABowhntr

Ok, now throw a 420 grain arrow into that calculation and tell me what I would get...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Thanks for the effort guys. I can't argue with the fact that those bows are fast. And although speed isn't everything if I can get that speed without losing forgiveness......<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I will keep an open mind.

5 shot

I will tell you one thing, I have got to try one or two of these bowtechs! Matt, you may yet cost me my wife, but at least I will have a new bow. LOL<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS

Matt / PA

Hey 5-Shot.......if that's the case maybe you should just TRADE your wife for a new BowTech......you know.... while she's still &quot;holding her value&quot;??!! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

What exactly are you looking for in a new bow?.....They have one you'd like I'm sure.

By the way.......let me know when Rockey Mt Archery comes out with a 5&quot; cut &quot;Snyper&quot;.....with 88ft lbs of KE, I'm all over that one.
Any new BROADHEAD recommendations for me now?

5 shot

Matt, I think she is &quot;past her prime&quot; LOL, I am pretty sure I want a bow between 35 and 38&quot; AtoA around 4lbs or less, fast, with a brace height of 6&quot; or more. To be hones Len In Maryland has got me realy looking hard at the Dartons. They realy seem to have a lot of great features, the Rampage looks almost perfect, then you come along and rave on the bowtechs!!!
No new broadhead recomendations yet, I do have a bonebuster and vortex heads to test, I just need to recable and retune the test bow. I also picked up a whisker biscut rest to play around with and compare the the Muzzy ZE. I think it will be intersting to compare the two side by side. Why don't you send me a bow or two to test for you for a few years, I don't want you to shoot somthing I wouldn't recomend. LOL<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS

Matt / PA

5-Shot,
I shot some of the Dartons.....they do shoot pretty nice.
To give you an idea about noise level of my Pro38 DC I was shooting right beside the shop owner who had a 27 or 28&quot; 60# Maverick w/ recurve limbs,set up for indoor shooting 2613 target arrows and No silencers.
My bow at30&quot; and 65# w/ my 370 carbons and also w/ no silencers sounded the same as his.(I didn't get to compare w/ mine at 70# cause' he wasn't shooting then)
He made the comment of how surprised he was at the low noise level for such a fast bow......It really is pretty darn impressive.

Edited by - Matt / PA on 01/18/2002 22:16:37

razorhunter

Matt,
I have a question regarding your comment that the Trophy Ridge sight &quot;sucks&quot; for indoor use. Why is that so? Although I don't shoot indoors at all, I have considered buying one for 3D and bowhunting. I'm just curious as to why?

Matt / PA

Razorhunter.....It all has to do with visibility.
First off, the color of the top pin on the 3 pin model is yellow.....not the best for shooting at a gold bullseye. Next, as with all fiber optic pin sights, they just don't absorb artificial light very well at all.
Basically what you end up with indoors is a very faint gold dot trying to hold on a faint gold dot!!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

HOWEVER........take this same sight outside where it's intended and it's exactly the opposite. It's very bright and the aiming points nice and fine. Adjustablility is also a breeze. If you are buying it like you said for 3D/Hunting don't hesitate, you'll like it.
Didn't mean to scare you away.

445 supermag

Matt great report thanks for the heads up about this one.

If I only didn't have to be buying a truck right now for the wife I would be in busniess.

Brian

akbowhunter

ive got the 2001 bk2 low brace {5.25} mabye i have goten used to a very harsh bow befor that {martin fury} but i thought the bk2 had a prety smooth draw. another hard fact to look at especialy for you guys that shoot those new fangled heads is the KE of these bows. im shooting at 327fps with a 425grn arrow this figures out to be 100 ft lbs of energery this is amazing if you ask me.
Ron