Hawgz

pdq 5oh it will do it I have no reason to lie.The Hoyt Rep came by with the New Hoyt bows and was talking about how the Razor Tec would smoke the Legacy's so he was shooting his bow through the chrony with pulling 66# with a 370 something grained arrow and it was shootin 272 and he said I would like to see a Legacy do that.Soooo I got mine with his arrow set at 61# and shoot right at 280 you would though I slapped him set it wasnt pulling the right pounds yadda yadda yadda.Rattling on but pdq 5oh I promise ya it will do it.

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Hawgz-

Your speed just increased 10fps (270 to 280) from your last post, I owned a Legacy and shooting 28" CX 200 @ 61lbs and I was lucky to be pushing 255fps. So there is no way you're getting that speed unless you have a 35" draw length. I'm calling your bluff here.

JeffB

Yep Frank and I don’t see eye to eye on that..but he know’s I’m right <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Seriously. I think it all boils down to an individual’s physique, and muscle structure, and may just well be related on a mental level as well. The fact that I have extremely wide and thick shoulders and back, and relatively short arms might be the deciding factor for me. For someone else with different muscle structure (longer arms, narrow shoulders, etc), it very well may be different.

However I have based my findings on not just myself personally, but also hundreds of customers I’ve had. I can’t ever recall a customer who dropped his bow weight down (and went to a stiffer cam) having ever complained that he wished he was drawing the heavier weight again on a softer cam. It might have taken slight adjustment period to get used to, but I never saw someone go back to those 80 and 90 pounders.

At the time I was a Pro-shop manager, we carried some of the roughest cams out there…original Mathews cams, HCA Hatchets (which compared to most modern cams are very smooth and easy to draw), Hoyt “Speed”, Flash and Master cams, XI Flatliner and V-max cams, The original BK from Oregon etc. We had a large Mountaineer & Golden Eagle customer base who were used to shooting soft energy wheels, often at 80 to 90 Lbs to get some speed out of em. After a season or two they would grab a Mathews 3D Vapor, or HCA Excalibur (fro example) at 60 or 70 pounds, and were instantly enamored, because they could get over the “hump” easier. It could very well be a subconscious thing: knowing that they are pulling less draw weight made it easier than it might actually be, in a physical sense.

Regardless, Frank and I will just have to agree to disagree on this matter. I find the Spiral cams smooth during transition periods, but much more difficult to draw due to it’s very late peak. I hardly bat an eyelash at the earlier peaking Bowtech Dual cams (either the new ones, or the BK’s).

At any rate, each individual must decide what is best for them, none of us can decide for another. I am simply offering information so that people can go out and make a more educated decision on what they are buying regardless of whether they agree with me or not. It very well might make the difference from being satisfied (or not) with a product, or truly ecstatic about a product.

silentassassin

<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote<font size=1 face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> My Legacy at 29 inch's set at 61# with a 429 grain arrow is shooting a flat 270<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face='Verdana, Arial, Helvetica' size=2 id=quote>

I am afraid that I am going to have to see that one to believe it.

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walks with a gimp

My '02 Patriot shoots 269 at 67 pounds with the 29 inch module through my old Chrony. Who knows if it's right but it is very consistent. I just use it to compair arrows and different set ups<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

PABowhntr

Ok. I agree...

...to disagree....

Thank heavens we are friends or we could go round and round about this one....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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OOps, I forgot. Mine shoots 269 fps with a 443 grain arrow at 29 inches.

Jerry/NJ

Frank, you left out the most important part of your post, we are getting much older as well!!! I think I will go shoot my 1975 Bear Polar LTD so I appreciate my other bows more <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

Become a better shot —> practice, don't just shoot

Mantis Mayer

<font color=blue><font size=4>Good info!!! Keep it up guys!</font id=size4></font id=blue>

Hawgz

S/A Call my bluff?Dude its no bluff.Email my with your address and heck I'll send you a VHS tape or something showing you it will.BTW where you live if its reasonable I 'll came and see ya.But if can thing of a way I can prove it to you the by all means lets.Cause I have no reason to blow smoke up anybody's rear on here.Nobodys paying me or nothing but everybody says the Legacy's are slow and they are NOT.Thats whats its doing right now for hunting is 270 pretty sure the arrow is 425 but I will re-weigh it this week just to make sure.(I dont like it when people think I lied)<img src=icon_smile_shy.gif border=0 align=middle>

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