fatchazz

I in the market for a new bow and I just wanted to see what you people think. I am looking for the perfect Hunting bow out of a treestand.

walks with a gimp

The BowTech cost is less, has a modular cam with 1/2 inch settings, let off is adjustable, is faster, it's lighter, has a better grip, Geeezzzz I might have to buy one of these also!

walks with a gimp

OOps, BowTech has a 50 to 100 pound draw weight range for the same price also<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Kanga

WWAG.
When you get that 100#er make sure you do a report on it along with a Dr report on ya shoulders<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


Aussie by birth Texan by choice

Pinwheel 12

The Extreme VFT has too low of a brace height for hunting IMHO especially when wearing thicker clothing late season, and the Legacy has that #!*# stationary roller guide that doesn't help the limbs by adding prestress.

I would buy neither of the two, and opt for either the Q2 or the DC Patriot myself. Just my own thoughts, Pinwheel 12

walks with a gimp

Ausie-Guy, I used to shoot and hunt with an 85 pound PSE Vector and had another PSE that would go to almost 120 pounds<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> Just thinking about that weight now hurts my shoulder!

Pinwheel 12

Sorry to interrupt, but that used to be the &quot;norm&quot; tho, WWAG! For 3D's and hunting some years ago I shot a 83lb High Country Supreme, 85lb Oneida Eagle SE 600, 88lb York Pursuit 3D, Pearson Spoilers, Alpine Silverados, Jennings Carbon Extremes, Browning Mirages, Martin Firecats, PSE Mach 4's, you name it really, and even a High Country National Champion(wheels, thank god!) at 100+ lbs! ( all with little dinky AFC carbon arrows to boot!) All in the name of speed and &quot;macho-ism&quot;. (is that a word? haha) We were all nuts! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Thankfully, times have changed....at least somewhat. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I like pulling 55-65 now and still getting 290+ with a &quot;mild&quot; cam, higher brace height, and extremely accurate setup. Seems a little less &quot;radical&quot; to me, and I find myself much more accurate and comfortable. I figure eventually the speed will get here with &quot;realistic&quot; (over 7&quot brace heights, so why push it, just let it come, and be comfy in the meantime! Ahh, the memories....... Pinwheel 12

Kanga

PW12.
Oh the things we done when we had no common sense<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
I am finding the 60# dually Pat more and more of a pleasure to shoot and have not lost any speed even with the extra brace height.
My shoulders are getting too old and tired for all this macho stuff I will leave that up to the younger guys.

Fatchazz.
I still recomend the dually over the vft for a hunting bow.Not taking anything away from the vft it is a nice bow to shoot but the short brace with heavy clothes could cause a problem.




Aussie by birth Texan by choice

Twaang

i have almost an identical thread running....i was curious too why the flames for the roller guide of mathews? the one i saw at the dealer didnt *appear* to load the limbs any more than a offset slide....does it?

Pinwheel 12

Oh, yessir! Why? Because on a &quot;normal&quot; cablegaurd, the slide runs forward and back during the draw cycle and allows freedom of movement of the cables in relation to the draw, and with the stationary roller guide it does not. The result? About 9 lbs more prestress on the limbs.(sometimes less, sometimes more, depending upon drawlength setup and cam size) Test it yourself---weigh your bow with the cables on the roller guide, then weigh it with the cables off which allows them freedom of movement. The extra poundage comes because the roller guide is stationary, so something has to give and in this case it is the limbtips moving an extra distance to compensate for the stationary roller. Too restrictive IMO, and I don't like the idea of running an extra 9lbs of prestress on any bow, thanks. Just my own thoughts, Pinwheel 12