New Peep...Shooting Issues
09-09-2007, 06:54 AM
#1
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 164
New Peep...Shooting Issues
I recently switched out my old peep for a larger diameter G5 Metapeep. I'm liking the ability to see the entire sight picture, but my groups have become inconsistent.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
09-09-2007, 07:39 AM
#2
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Burleson TX USA
Posts: 6,455
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
09-09-2007, 02:01 PM
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RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
ORIGINAL: Mikey S.
your groups got bigger because your peep got bigger. try to center your sight housing in the peep hole while aiming.
your groups got bigger because your peep got bigger. try to center your sight housing in the peep hole while aiming.
09-09-2007, 04:28 PM
#5
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: HENDERSON KY USA
Posts: 6,634
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
ORIGINAL: DaRookie
I recently switched out my old peep for a larger diameter G5 Metapeep. I'm liking the ability to see the entire sight picture, but my groups have become inconsistent.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
I recently switched out my old peep for a larger diameter G5 Metapeep. I'm liking the ability to see the entire sight picture, but my groups have become inconsistent.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Yes,if it isn't in the same location as the other peep,you will need to resight.
After you get the peep where it belongs,then you can use the sight housing as a reference.
09-09-2007, 04:38 PM
#6
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: masontown pa USA
Posts: 851
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
I like to set my peep with my eyes closed. Install it close to where you think it should be, then draw your bow with your release and an arrow on the string with your eyes closed. Set your anchor points with your eyes closed, so everything feels good, then open your eyes to and adjust and have a buddy slide your peep to align with your eye.
If you grouped good beforehand, your peep is either to high/to low on the string now, in effect screwing up your anchor points, or the sight housing is not centered in the peep hole at full draw. I always try to size my peep to fit my sight housing at full draw, sometimes bigger ain't always better.
If you grouped good beforehand, your peep is either to high/to low on the string now, in effect screwing up your anchor points, or the sight housing is not centered in the peep hole at full draw. I always try to size my peep to fit my sight housing at full draw, sometimes bigger ain't always better.
09-09-2007, 09:38 PM
#7
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 760
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
Darookie, what you have to realize is that although you can see more sight picture , the larger hole also means you have to pay closer attention to your anchor point. You may be getting higher in the peep on one shot and lower on anther shot.
09-10-2007, 07:55 AM
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RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
I was practicing with my Bowtech Patriot Dually this weekend and confirmed that with a larger peep opening, you can get some variation in your group.
Obiviously, if you can't keep the front sight perfectly aligned in the peep, you'll get variation (in my case...I stay on for windage...bu could see difference in elevation).
I tested this theory a bit by aiming with the dot in the bottom of the peep, and in the top of the peep (touching the peep edge itself).
I'm considering going to a smaller peep, but know that it's tough trade-off as a larger peep tends to be less of a problem for me in the woods.
Obiviously, if you can't keep the front sight perfectly aligned in the peep, you'll get variation (in my case...I stay on for windage...bu could see difference in elevation).
I tested this theory a bit by aiming with the dot in the bottom of the peep, and in the top of the peep (touching the peep edge itself).
I'm considering going to a smaller peep, but know that it's tough trade-off as a larger peep tends to be less of a problem for me in the woods.
09-10-2007, 11:39 AM
#9
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Middletown PA United States
Posts: 3,625
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
ORIGINAL: TFOX
The first thing you need to do is get the peep where it belongs when you anchor.Sounds to me like you are using the peep to dictate where you anchor,that is backwards.The peep should be adjusted so that it is perfect when you anchor.This will cause your groups to open up,especially if the other peep was in the right place and this one isn't.
Yes,if it isn't in the same location as the other peep,you will need to resight.
So true. And along with peep position comes tweeking the draw length. These two things help with your anchor almost making a peep unneeded, if you shoot enough to establish the anchor. A sure way, but not the only way to tell if the draw length and peep position is right is that when you look at your target and come to full draw you should not have to adjust your head whatsoever. That's called making the bow fit you and not the other way around.
After you get the peep where it belongs,then you can use the sight housing as a reference.
ORIGINAL: DaRookie
I recently switched out my old peep for a larger diameter G5 Metapeep. I'm liking the ability to see the entire sight picture, but my groups have become inconsistent.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
I recently switched out my old peep for a larger diameter G5 Metapeep. I'm liking the ability to see the entire sight picture, but my groups have become inconsistent.
My question is...after changing out a peep sight, do you need to re-sight the bow? Please keep in mind that the peep did come down on the string from the location of the previous one.
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Yes,if it isn't in the same location as the other peep,you will need to resight.
So true. And along with peep position comes tweeking the draw length. These two things help with your anchor almost making a peep unneeded, if you shoot enough to establish the anchor. A sure way, but not the only way to tell if the draw length and peep position is right is that when you look at your target and come to full draw you should not have to adjust your head whatsoever. That's called making the bow fit you and not the other way around.
After you get the peep where it belongs,then you can use the sight housing as a reference.
09-10-2007, 08:51 PM
#10
Fork Horn
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: VA
Posts: 164
RE: New Peep...Shooting Issues
Thanks for the help, guys. I took the bow in today to have it looked at and the peep turned out to be the least of my problems. Here's what the issues were:
1. WB brushes damaged
2. Centershot Off
3. Peep tied in poorly
4. Cable slide was being cut-through by cables causing loss of clearance
5. Due to loss of clearance - blazers were hitting cables and had begun to rub a flat spot on the cable
No wonder I couldn't buy a decent group!!
Anyway, here's what the shop did for me to get everything resolved --
1. New rest (Bowtech Hostage) properly adjusted for centershot and all that. Love it so far.
2. Retied peep
3. New Cable Slide
4. Ditched the Blazers for 4" Vanes
Basically, the shop I bought the bow at didn't know ****. Anyway, lesson learned and found a shop with some real professionals that I feel confident in.
1. WB brushes damaged
2. Centershot Off
3. Peep tied in poorly
4. Cable slide was being cut-through by cables causing loss of clearance
5. Due to loss of clearance - blazers were hitting cables and had begun to rub a flat spot on the cable
No wonder I couldn't buy a decent group!!
Anyway, here's what the shop did for me to get everything resolved --
1. New rest (Bowtech Hostage) properly adjusted for centershot and all that. Love it so far.
2. Retied peep
3. New Cable Slide
4. Ditched the Blazers for 4" Vanes
Basically, the shop I bought the bow at didn't know ****. Anyway, lesson learned and found a shop with some real professionals that I feel confident in.
