Arrow selection dilema!
#1
Arrow selection dilema!
I need to go to a weaker spined arrow (I cannot get rid of tear right otherwise). Been shooting Axis ST 400 Carbons.
BUT! I want to keep my total arrow weight at 400gr or more for hunting.
Arrow, insert, nock, fletches, 125 gr. point.
I shoot 68lb, 27.5" draw, mechanical release, Reflex SuperSlam.
Is there an arrow out there that will give me these criteria? I'm thinking the Cabella's carbon hunter in the 55 - 70 lb, 8.7gpi might fall into this category.?
BUT! I want to keep my total arrow weight at 400gr or more for hunting.
Arrow, insert, nock, fletches, 125 gr. point.
I shoot 68lb, 27.5" draw, mechanical release, Reflex SuperSlam.
Is there an arrow out there that will give me these criteria? I'm thinking the Cabella's carbon hunter in the 55 - 70 lb, 8.7gpi might fall into this category.?
#2
RE: Arrow selection dilema!
Before I did anything with different spined arrows, I would check the charts and make sure you aren't fixing something that isn't broke. It sounds like you may already have toosoftof an arrow. If you haven't done so already, go to Easton's site and check the charts for proper spine. From there, look into things like centershot, rest position, clearance issues, etc. You have to start with the right arrow to go on to the next step.
#4
RE: Arrow selection dilema!
2117 alluminum shafts would probably work , if you are shooting a 100 grain head , or weight tubes , I think they make them , that will fit inside your axis shafts .
#5
RE: Arrow selection dilema!
Believe me when I say . . . I've done ALL the tuning and adjusting you can do! Many times over. My arrows still tear "tail right". Not a lot, but enough. And the final "fix" is to go to a lighter spined arrow according to all sources, both locally and on the net.
I'm past all that . . . and oh yeah . . . I won't go back to aluminum.
Thanks.
I'm past all that . . . and oh yeah . . . I won't go back to aluminum.
Thanks.
#6
RE: Arrow selection dilema!
Take your bow to a really good pro shop. Are you in Cheyenne Wyoming? The nearest one may be in Fort Collins, Colorado. We have a very good one in Canon City, Colorado - but that is a pretty long haul from Cheyenne.
There is something wrong here that going to an even more underspined arrow is probably not going to help.
There is something wrong here that going to an even more underspined arrow is probably not going to help.
#7
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RE: Arrow selection dilema!
The only way I've been able to determine dynamic spine is with bareshaft testing.
I would also guess your spine is weak. You can tweak dynamic spine by changing tip weight or draw weight, without buying new arrows. Heavier tips weaken spine. Heavier draw weight weakens spine. You can also cut the shaft shorter - to stiffen spine. I wouldn't advise that until you've determined that it will work. No going back on that one.
I would also guess your spine is weak. You can tweak dynamic spine by changing tip weight or draw weight, without buying new arrows. Heavier tips weaken spine. Heavier draw weight weakens spine. You can also cut the shaft shorter - to stiffen spine. I wouldn't advise that until you've determined that it will work. No going back on that one.
#8
RE: Arrow selection dilema!
Check for cam lean. This will give a right tear even if the arrows are spined right. I do have to take exception to what you say you have been told. Your arrows are not too stiff. If anything they are on the edge of being too weak now, especially with 125 gr tips.
I think you should try one of two things if the cams are in line. Either try shooting a 340 spine or turn the weight down about one full turn and see what happens.
I think you should try one of two things if the cams are in line. Either try shooting a 340 spine or turn the weight down about one full turn and see what happens.
#9
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Blossvale, New York
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RE: Arrow selection dilema!
YUP, I agree, arrows are on the light side if anything. A too stiff arrow doesn't give you a right tear..... it gives you a HIGH right tear. So can form, untuned bows etc. Try this, put a 100 grain point on that arrow instead of the 125 and see what happens. Get that palm or heel out of the shot. But, my first guesses are tune and form. If you put a fixed broadhead on it you'll see how bad real quick. With broadheads that heavy I say you need a 340 or the equivalent.