BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
01-04-2007, 07:28 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
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Location: NW Ohio USA
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
ORIGINAL: Old/New
Len,
I live on Long Island (NY). Back in that day I got hooked up with a really good bow guy. He had many bows stocked with lots of draw length choices. This Jennings was listed as 26.5 though it does have a soft back wall. A Jennings 26.5 may not have been a "real" 26.5 as measured by your tool admittedly. But he was careful measuring archers and I remember him saying often, "the bow you're using is too long for you", to many ofthe shooters that used his range.
Regardless, I know when I go into a bow shop and shoot a bow Iwill not settle for one that is too long a draw. That brings up the question of which bows are listed accurately as far as their draw lengths are concerned? Where do I start? I expect the shops will have few short draw bows to shoot. Am I wrong?
Thanks again for the info.
Len,
I live on Long Island (NY). Back in that day I got hooked up with a really good bow guy. He had many bows stocked with lots of draw length choices. This Jennings was listed as 26.5 though it does have a soft back wall. A Jennings 26.5 may not have been a "real" 26.5 as measured by your tool admittedly. But he was careful measuring archers and I remember him saying often, "the bow you're using is too long for you", to many ofthe shooters that used his range.
Regardless, I know when I go into a bow shop and shoot a bow Iwill not settle for one that is too long a draw. That brings up the question of which bows are listed accurately as far as their draw lengths are concerned? Where do I start? I expect the shops will have few short draw bows to shoot. Am I wrong?
Thanks again for the info.
Old/New,
Try getting in touch with Rack-attack on here. He's got a shop on Long Island called the Archery Forum...
01-05-2007, 06:14 AM
#42
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Lehigh County PA USA
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
The center pivot design has unique characteristics.For one, the load distribution is controlled better in various axis. The pivot point serves also to contol cam lean.
01-05-2007, 03:23 PM
#43
Join Date: Nov 2006
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
Len in Maryland:
Regarding your statement: "
7. While it can be let down and disassembled without a press, care must be taken in doing so. If you're not careful you can either pull some threads out of the end of theriser or 'pinch' your fingers severly.[:@] There should be a press available within weeks that will handle both this design and the PSE/AR short-limbed bows.
Could you specify a little as to the concern?Do you mean pull threads by attempting to tighten/increase poundage?I'm not sure I understand the problem in releasing/relaxing the limbs - unless there could be a stripping problem when attempting to tighten back up.
Sorry if this is a stupid question - I recently ordered a Guardian, partlybecause I liked the idea of being able to relax the limbsif necessary on an obscure out of the way hunt. I'm just not sure how you could strip them unless you really got on the wrench and applied major force - am I way off? Secondrelated question - how easy is it to replace thelimbs? If aguy were to purchase a "spare set" of limbs, a few keys, and havea spare string/cables set up with peep, etc ready to go -it would in theory negate needing a back up bow - as long as you don't need to be a tried and true technician to get the thing back together - what do you think?
Thanks,
Brian
Regarding your statement: "
7. While it can be let down and disassembled without a press, care must be taken in doing so. If you're not careful you can either pull some threads out of the end of theriser or 'pinch' your fingers severly.[:@] There should be a press available within weeks that will handle both this design and the PSE/AR short-limbed bows.
Could you specify a little as to the concern?Do you mean pull threads by attempting to tighten/increase poundage?I'm not sure I understand the problem in releasing/relaxing the limbs - unless there could be a stripping problem when attempting to tighten back up.
Sorry if this is a stupid question - I recently ordered a Guardian, partlybecause I liked the idea of being able to relax the limbsif necessary on an obscure out of the way hunt. I'm just not sure how you could strip them unless you really got on the wrench and applied major force - am I way off? Secondrelated question - how easy is it to replace thelimbs? If aguy were to purchase a "spare set" of limbs, a few keys, and havea spare string/cables set up with peep, etc ready to go -it would in theory negate needing a back up bow - as long as you don't need to be a tried and true technician to get the thing back together - what do you think?
Thanks,
Brian
01-05-2007, 04:22 PM
#44
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Location: Milford, Delaware
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
Being able to relax the tension on these bows is really for field servicing i think.You really have to take out a lot of turns just to get the tenion loose enough to makepeep change.Can you imagine how many turns it would take to change strings and or cables? In which lies the problem of popping out threads in the riser if you take to many turns out Ithink.Hope i amright.shops are gonna need a press for these bows or they will be a real pain in the a$$.
01-05-2007, 11:48 PM
#45
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Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
ORIGINAL: newman1
Being able to relax the tension on these bows is really for field servicing i think.You really have to take out a lot of turns just to get the tenion loose enough to makepeep change.Can you imagine how many turns it would take to change strings and or cables? In which lies the problem of popping out threads in the riser if you take to many turns out Ithink.Hope i amright.shops are gonna need a press for these bows or they will be a real pain in the a$$.
Being able to relax the tension on these bows is really for field servicing i think.You really have to take out a lot of turns just to get the tenion loose enough to makepeep change.Can you imagine how many turns it would take to change strings and or cables? In which lies the problem of popping out threads in the riser if you take to many turns out Ithink.Hope i amright.shops are gonna need a press for these bows or they will be a real pain in the a$$.
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