BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
#21
Join Date: Feb 2006
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RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
Len, lots of good info here. Thanks. Hopefully many questions/concerns will be answered. See you at the ATA.
Parks, the bow mounted chronys are notoriously inaccurate. I didn't realize that's what you'd been using. A good shoot through model should make you feel better. As well as taking Len's advice on finding a shop to better help you. Good luck with your bow. I see no reason things can't be worked out and set up properly.
Parks, the bow mounted chronys are notoriously inaccurate. I didn't realize that's what you'd been using. A good shoot through model should make you feel better. As well as taking Len's advice on finding a shop to better help you. Good luck with your bow. I see no reason things can't be worked out and set up properly.
#22
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
WWAG:
While your intent is commendable, the results may be misleading. This bow was designed in a way to eliminate cam lean by placing the module on the opposite side of the cam and 'relocating' things in other areas. By going to a 'shoot through' system, you may actually cause other problems.
It's something to be considered, but I wonder if we'd really gain anything.Two problems come to mind about'shoot through' system. First, the cables tend to 'slap' together to cause noise on the shot. Not the bestchoice for hunting. Second,loading the arrow can be troublesome.
Still, something to think about.
While your intent is commendable, the results may be misleading. This bow was designed in a way to eliminate cam lean by placing the module on the opposite side of the cam and 'relocating' things in other areas. By going to a 'shoot through' system, you may actually cause other problems.
It's something to be considered, but I wonder if we'd really gain anything.Two problems come to mind about'shoot through' system. First, the cables tend to 'slap' together to cause noise on the shot. Not the bestchoice for hunting. Second,loading the arrow can be troublesome.
Still, something to think about.
#23
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
Posts: 2,057
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
I was actually looking to use the stock cables on the Guardian "shoot through" and there would be no way they would touch.
I'll get one sometime soon and play with the idea more with a prototype cable rod accessory.
I'll get one sometime soon and play with the idea more with a prototype cable rod accessory.
#24
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
Sorry, I continue to have the split yoke concept on my mind.[:@]
It might work, but I still worry about the design concept and the loading of the arrow. I have too many other items on my plate to try that. If you do get a chance to play with it, let me know what you find. Do you have lasers and a way to check cam lean at full draw?
Are you going to the ATA Show? If so, we could talk about this and adapting your press to use it on the Guardian/Commander and MachX/Velocity bows.
It might work, but I still worry about the design concept and the loading of the arrow. I have too many other items on my plate to try that. If you do get a chance to play with it, let me know what you find. Do you have lasers and a way to check cam lean at full draw?
Are you going to the ATA Show? If so, we could talk about this and adapting your press to use it on the Guardian/Commander and MachX/Velocity bows.
#28
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: baltimore,md
Posts: 547
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
Len,
As you know,I could throw my .2$ in,but thats all it would be worth.Besides,you have covered most of what we were talking about with the Guardian. Maybe Mike and I will stop down the shop on Sunday am.
Happy New Year to all.
Bob
As you know,I could throw my .2$ in,but thats all it would be worth.Besides,you have covered most of what we were talking about with the Guardian. Maybe Mike and I will stop down the shop on Sunday am.
Happy New Year to all.
Bob
#29
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alvo Nebraska USA
Posts: 2,057
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
ORIGINAL: Len in Maryland
Sorry, I continue to have the split yoke concept on my mind.[:@]
It might work, but I still worry about the design concept and the loading of the arrow. I have too many other items on my plate to try that. If you do get a chance to play with it, let me know what you find. Do you have lasers and a way to check cam lean at full draw?
Are you going to the ATA Show? If so, we could talk about this and adapting your press to use it on the Guardian/Commander and MachX/Velocity bows.
Sorry, I continue to have the split yoke concept on my mind.[:@]
It might work, but I still worry about the design concept and the loading of the arrow. I have too many other items on my plate to try that. If you do get a chance to play with it, let me know what you find. Do you have lasers and a way to check cam lean at full draw?
Are you going to the ATA Show? If so, we could talk about this and adapting your press to use it on the Guardian/Commander and MachX/Velocity bows.
#30
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 552
RE: BowTech Guardian/Commander observations
I am a 56 yr old bowhunter who hasn't hunted much for various reasons the last several years. I am going to start shooting again now. I'd liketo purchase a bow and justbegan looking into choices. That is how I found this website & forum. Very interesting. There is a bowshop nearby that specializes in Bowtech bows as well as one a little further away that sell Matthews. Of course, just about any other bow is also available. I shoot recurves but want to try a compound.
Do you need to shoot these bowsusing release aids? I am not against using one, I am just not that familiar with them.
I have a short draw length (probably around 26-26.5"). Does this cause any problems shooting a modern compound?
I want to shoot around 55#.
You guys seem to be very helpful (especially Len in Maryland). Any feedback would be appreciated. I would like to purchase a bow in late January or early February.
Do you need to shoot these bowsusing release aids? I am not against using one, I am just not that familiar with them.
I have a short draw length (probably around 26-26.5"). Does this cause any problems shooting a modern compound?
I want to shoot around 55#.
You guys seem to be very helpful (especially Len in Maryland). Any feedback would be appreciated. I would like to purchase a bow in late January or early February.