CargoF16

Just read a post in which Rangeball replied that he shoots a Diamond and it's 300+FPS. I had never heard of Diamond until today but after looking at their specs on their web site I'll be looking at them a little closer. Check this out. I cliped it from a PDF format so I'm not sure how it's going to show in the post.


Here's their web site: http://www.diamondarchery.com/home1.html

Who else shoots these bows? Speak up. How do they rate as far as workmanship, component quality, customer service?

thanks

Cargo

DaveC

My very small local proshop carries them. I looked at themm today and had to leave before my credit card flopped out of my wallet-(no cash on me at the time).
He was selling most of his diamonds for $499.00. He even had a decked out undertaker with a camo riser for. $499.00
He didn't have the hornet in stock though. I asked him how much to order one and he said $70.00 over dealer cost. He has the cost of each bow listed on each riser and it would total $440.00 for the hornet.
He had a stinger in stock, but the 28.5" ata seems a little too short. Is it?

He was pushing me towards a high country brute force he had marked down to $375.00. 33" ata with 7.5" brace height and an IBO of 315fps.
Mighty tempting, but not too sure about high country bows.
Any suggestions???

AB Bow Hunter

If a surprisingly forgiving speed bow is what you are looking for than you must check out a Bow Tech. I just purchased a BK II. The BH scared me @ first, but the bow is unbelievably forgiving. I shot holes in 3 out of 6 arrow’s vanes I was shooting @ 20 yards. Keep in mind I haven’t shot a bow for about 5 years. I can see why these bows are flying off the shelves.

My brother bought a Mathews Legacy, he is a much smaller man than I, pulling 61 lbs, @ 27.5” draw, & he is worried about shooting mech. heads because of the low KE he is producing. I do admit that his bow is extremely quiet, but not any more forgiving than mine, in my opinion.

PS: if you go with a Bow Tech invest in an arrow puller. They drill em’ deep.
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Good judgment comes from years of bad judgment.

8PT

CargoF 16 I can tell you they are some great bows. You probably will not see a lot of them compared to other major brands because they are not a huge company and at this time have no desire to be. They prefer to remain smaller and keep the hands on built quality rather than mass assembly line production. They are some great folks and while they work in close relationship at times with the Bowtech R&D folks sharing ideas and thoughts, they design and produce their own bows and still cut a lot of the parts for Bowtech as well as other companies. When Bowtech first started growing so fast they tried to buy Diamond out for their machines and equipment but Diamond wouldn't sell. I shoot the same bow as Rangeball (Diamond Hornet) and love it. It is a 2000 model and I have no idea how many arrows I have shot thru it. Somes maybe around 300 per week and it still shoots like it did when new, maybe better. If you get the chance give them a close look and shoot them. You might be surprised.

JeffB

I'm not very amiliar with the newer Diamond bows, so I really cannot comment other than to say that Dimaond seems to be using the older Bowtech PF cams,and not the latest designs.

I do know (as 8Pt said) that at one time Bowtech was based in LA, and was using Diamond's machine shop.However, I don't believe that has been the case though since about mid-2001 or so when Bowtech moved the bulk of their ops to Oregon. Kevin Strother still does live in LA though. Perhaps BTS can shed some light on the subject.

I do know the older &quot;pre-Bowtech technology&quot; Diamonds seemd to be very well built..in particular I'm speaking of the carbon riser bows. They seemed to shoot quite nicely considering what other companies have gone on to do when they sold their rights for the carbon riser technology to them.

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Rangeball

I have held and shot the Diamond, of course, but only held a bowtech. Based on this limited experience, the grip on the Diamond was vastly superior to the bowtech in my hand.

At the prices quoted above, you are comparable bow, perhaps better as they receive more TLC in my opinion. Sure they are using an older technology cam ( a whole wopping 2 years ), but they put together an extremely well built bow, and this cam is still SMOKIN' fast and their bows are extremely quiet and accurate.

I hope Pinwheel chimes in on the subject, I know a year or so ago we discussed this topic, and he had good things to say about Diamond.

In my honest opinion, they are the most under-rated bow company out their. They put out top notch stuff at a fair price.

I went into my pro-shop the summer of 2000 intent on buying a Mathews MQ 32. The pro handed it to my, I held it, drew it back, felt nice. He smiled, and said &quot;this is the one you outa buy&quot; and handed me the hornet. It melted into my hand, like it was a part of me. I started grinning instantly. He set both up identical, same draw length, poundage, rest and arrow. Stepped over to the range. I shot the Mathews first over the chrony, a few shots, then the hornet. The hornet was visibly faster (or should I say invisibly), felt better, aimed better, was quieter and more accurate. We checked the chrony, the hornet was 50 fps faster than the Mathews. I looked at the pro and said &quot;who do I make the check out to and for how much&quot;

I saved over $300 buy buying the hornet, and got a vastly superior bow in my opinion.

Go shoot one. I swear you'll love it.

mshane

I can't remember on which forum it was but I read a review of a 2003 Diamond that is supposed to be very similar to a Patriot... Looks like a very nice bow.. Just some info...

Ooops, not a Diamond but a Pearson, here is the link... Sorry

http://www.huntersfriend.com/freedom.htm

Edited by - mshane on 10/31/2002 09:26:47

Pinwheel 12

Yep, they are VASTLY underated IMHO. I like Diamond bows! I have since they first came out with their carbon technology in 1997. The Odyssey was a great bow with the saber twin cam, and the Widowmaker with it's Vengeance perimeter cam and dual track idler was great too.(dual track idler? Yep, long before Hoyt. Alpine had 'em too.) Solid, smooth shooting, and well built, with that fantastic carbon technology. Unfortunately in 2000 they sold their Carbon Technology to High Country,(who haven't done much with it) and teamed up with Bowtech to produce their cams and modules. (Diamond has been doing this with several companies for several years) They licensed Bowtechs' cam design also for their own equipment in 2000, and altho relatively &quot;undiscovered&quot;, still build some of the nicest bows out there today, IMO. I do wish they had NOT sold their carbon technology, but realistically you have to do what you have to do to remain in business. IMO if they were to utilize more of their own cam designs, and break away from &quot;piggybacking&quot; on others' technology, I truly believe they could go places because they are extremely well built, offer great service, and have well-balanced, great shooting equipment. They get a big thumbs-up from me.

How's that, Rangeball, good enough? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12

Rangeball

Well... Ok you sold me. I'm gonna keep mine ... like anyone could pry it outa my hands.

I too look forward for what the future brings for these guys. It's like a custom built bow, hands on tender loving care, for a bargain bow price.

8PT

Hey folks I am fixin to head out the door and go to the woods for a few days and if I have the time may stop by the Diamond shop and visit a few minutes. If I do I am going to tell them ya'll are talking about them. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> That is if the owners are not out hunting. They do like to hunt and shoot but don't get as much time to as they would like. Who does? Hey they should have some different cams coming out this year. Last I talked to them they were testing and trying prototypes. Passing them back and forth between target shooters, 3D shooters, hunters and combinations of all the above. I hope they don't come out with something I can't live without. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Josh, Gary and all the other guys are good people.



Edited by - 8PT on 10/31/2002 09:49:34