Len in Maryland

We got our shipment in today of the new Hoyts. Anxious to see how they really fair, I grabbed a new Cam and 1/2 and proceeded to thoroughly examine it. Interesting design, however, so basically similar to the Darton C/P/S that it's scary. I'm sure they carefully read Darton's patents.

Next we took the bow out to the Apple machine to check for nock travel. An initial inspection showed that the cables were not lined up, IMO, to the timing lines as I would expect. Since the cables/string stretch at different rates, this is really not uncommon. Regardless, I put the bow on the machine. The nock travel was level but NOT totally straight. There was a definite downswing about the last 2" of the draw cycle. Even with this undesirable situation, it was still a lot better than just about every other typical single cam we have tested.

I took the bow to the press and proceeded to adjust the cables to a point where I felt they should fall within the timing marks. Back to the press and 'walla' - a perfectly straight and level nock travel.

Next we tested to see if we could get the speed as advertised. We first checked the advertised/posted draw length. It was almost 3/4" too long - somewhat typical with many of today's manufacturers - some have actually admitted to me that they have a problem in this area. The speeds we saw were also typical of what we usually find with Hoyt bows. Not quite as fast as advertised; but, very respectable. Keep in mind that we've only ever found a couple of bow companies that meet their advertised speeds. BTW, I had one of my techs do the speed testing since I'm not supposed to draw bows back yet. I have cheated a little on this issue; but, don't tell my Doctor.

The draw cycle on the new Cam and 1/2 is very smooth. It is hard to tell the difference between it and their Command Cam+. The Spiral Cam and 1/2 on the SuperTec is also very smooth but has a non-existant valley. If you move just a little, it wants to take off. It would be best not to order this bow unless you know how to pull and release hard against the back wall. This would also require making sure you have absolutely the correct draw length.

So far I'm very impressed with the cam design and the Hoyt products in general. For the smooth draw cycle and great speed, I don't think you can go wrong with this new cam design.

Big Country

Thank`s for the report Len, glad your first experience did`nt turn out like Franks!

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Thanks for sharing your observations with us Len and good to have you back. The Darton shooters probably never had a doubt about the new offerings from Hoyt, we knew they would be good<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Hoyt's new saying should be &quot;Follow Us If You Can&quot;<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> Get Well!

BOWFANATIC

Thanks Len! if I decide to get a new ultratec with the cam 1/2 theres a good chance you'll be getting an email from me for tech support. It sounds as though our Hoyt dealer over here has 1/4 of your knowlege and none of your equipment.

&quot;Nocked,cocked & ready to rock&quot;

Olink

Just curious Len, how does the valley (or lack of) on the Spiral Cam & 1/2 compare to the valley on the Bowtech BKII?

Len in Maryland

Since the Cam and 1/2 is so smooth a transition, all of my techs agreed that it is not all that uncomfortable. It's just that you have to pull harder than usual into the wall to keep from creeping.

moonge

The Hoyts are nice looking bows. I also agree with Len in that the cam looks very much like Dartons CPS. Lets just hope Hoyt did enough changes not to get in trouble! anyway the new bows look like they will rock.

PABowhntr

Len,

I am glad to hear that you have good things to say about the new models...and I don't want to give anyone the impression that I am not happy with them. I trully am...but I had a small &quot;bump&quot; to get through on the way to total contentment...

It is funny you mentioned the longer than average draw length as I found the Razortec I bought to be right on the button...in fact a little short actually...but I would be willing to be that is going to vary from bow to bow.

I didn't get to check the speed on mine yet though.....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Len in Maryland

Frank: The speed check was done on the SuperTec. We were comparing it to another bow of known speed data and wanted to set the other bow at the same draw length to do a better analysis. By using a known comparison, we help to eliminate possible variances in the chronograph. Even though we have an expensive chrono, it's electronic and subject to variances over time. I just don't take the time to have it calibrated - plus it's expensive for the amount of usage. Besides, we know it's relatively close.

Also keep in mind the the SuperTec has the Spiral Cam and 1/2 and not the Cam and 1/2, which is on your bow. I guess I should have checked some of the other bows in the Cam and 1/2 version before making that statement; but, like I said, we find most manufacturers to be up to 3/4&quot; in variance to stated draw length.

I'll do some checking on the other bows and try to report back.