New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
10-15-2002, 02:43 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sheridan OR USA
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New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
I have been shooting off and on since I was a kid. Just targets. Finally, when I decided to take my hunting to the next level, I decided it was time to get a modern bow.
I spent a very long time researching different manufacurers, and different models. The manufacturers reputation for building a quality product and backing it up with a lifetime warranty was tops on my list. Enter BowTech.
I was going to buy my BowTech from the local pro shop. The same day I decide to go down and purchase my bow the pro shop tells me that they have just raised the price on their Bowtech's. Well, that doesn't set so well with me! So I drive accross town to the new and very large outdoor store that had just opened a few months earlier (sorry, won't mention the name of the store). I am mesmerized by all of the BowTech's they have in stock. They mention BowTech's $50.00 rebate on all thier bow's. I end up paying $70.00 less for my bow than I would have spent at the pro shop. I am feeling pretty good at this point. The thought of saving $ dulling the guilt I feel for not buying from the little guy (not to mention being slightly pissed about the increase in price at the small shop).
I have them set up my bow with some accesories that I had purchased previously and with some stuff I bought at their store. We do a really half ass paper tune and I am out the door (the whole time I feel as though I am being rushed). As I am walking through the parking lot I notice a small scratch on the top limb of my bow. I shrug off my initial thoughts of wanting my new bow to be "perfect". I get home shoot a hundred or so arrows and go to bed with a sore arm. The next day I shoot another hundred or so arrows but notice my string leeches are gone (partially because the guy at the store put them on wrong, but thats another post). I also notice that my "scratch" has turned into a crack.
Great! My leeches are gone and my brand new bow has a cracked limb. O.K. I'll call the store and ask them what to do about it. They tell me to bring it in and they will handle the warranty stuff with BT. I'm feeling better but still sick over the whole thing. I get to the store and the guy's from the archery dept. are out hunting and won't be in untill that afternoon. Bummed I have no one to talk to to find out wheen I might get my bow back, I leave my bow at the store. I call back later and the guy says it will be three days. Good, I can still go shooting 3d with my buddies that weekend (I made plans to take the weekend off the day after I got my bow).
Three days later I call back and end up speaking to different guy. I ask him if my bow is in and he tells me it won't be in untill next week! I tell him that the other guy said it would be in today. Then this fella starts to give me the third degree on whethor or not I dry fired it! I tell him no and if I did I would say so! The things got a lifetime warranty on it. Why would I lie? Those types of things happen and I'm not to proud to admit when I do something wrong. How can I be sure it wasn't dry fired accidentally by somebody looking at it before I bought it? A couple of weeks before I was in that same store and watched some guy dry fire a Hoyt and the salesperson put it right back on the rack! That should have been a warning sign for me.
So anyway I pitch a fit and the guy reluctantly says that he'll take the limbs off of another bowif my replacements aren't in from bowtech. I figure that will at least keep me on track for my weekend. The next day I come in and my bow is still in pieces. I screw aroun telling the other guys that someone said he would put the limbs from another bow on mine if BT's didn't arrive yet. Finally I get a guy to slap'em on. I ask him about my new limbsavers that I bought from them when i bought the bow (I think since the bow was'nt even a week old he should have put on new one's). He said he pulled them off and can stick them on my new limbs. Anyway they look like crap. My bow is still quiet but I am sure not as quiet as it could have been had he put on new ones. I ask if we can paper tune the bow. He says he allready did. Not feeling right I go home shoot my bow and can't hit anything with it for 2 weeks.
Just when I think I might take it in and have it tuned or checked out I realize me center serving is totally loose and my nock is moving up and down. The guy at the shop reserved it for nothing and it shoots better but still doesn't feel like it's tuned right. Two days ago just slightly bumed the grip on a chair while going outside to shoot a cracked it into two pieces.
This was not the fun experience it should have been! My new bow has been a pain in the ass and I have lost my confidence in it being a sound piece of equipment to take hunting. Especially if I go to alska next year bear hunting (my aunt and uncle own a lodge Icould never afford iit otherwise). I should have gone to the little guy and could have probably saved myself alot of grief. I do not regret buying a BowTech however it could have happened to any brand of bow and they backed up their warranty but what's next?
Sorry so long
Kirk
I spent a very long time researching different manufacurers, and different models. The manufacturers reputation for building a quality product and backing it up with a lifetime warranty was tops on my list. Enter BowTech.
I was going to buy my BowTech from the local pro shop. The same day I decide to go down and purchase my bow the pro shop tells me that they have just raised the price on their Bowtech's. Well, that doesn't set so well with me! So I drive accross town to the new and very large outdoor store that had just opened a few months earlier (sorry, won't mention the name of the store). I am mesmerized by all of the BowTech's they have in stock. They mention BowTech's $50.00 rebate on all thier bow's. I end up paying $70.00 less for my bow than I would have spent at the pro shop. I am feeling pretty good at this point. The thought of saving $ dulling the guilt I feel for not buying from the little guy (not to mention being slightly pissed about the increase in price at the small shop).
I have them set up my bow with some accesories that I had purchased previously and with some stuff I bought at their store. We do a really half ass paper tune and I am out the door (the whole time I feel as though I am being rushed). As I am walking through the parking lot I notice a small scratch on the top limb of my bow. I shrug off my initial thoughts of wanting my new bow to be "perfect". I get home shoot a hundred or so arrows and go to bed with a sore arm. The next day I shoot another hundred or so arrows but notice my string leeches are gone (partially because the guy at the store put them on wrong, but thats another post). I also notice that my "scratch" has turned into a crack.
Great! My leeches are gone and my brand new bow has a cracked limb. O.K. I'll call the store and ask them what to do about it. They tell me to bring it in and they will handle the warranty stuff with BT. I'm feeling better but still sick over the whole thing. I get to the store and the guy's from the archery dept. are out hunting and won't be in untill that afternoon. Bummed I have no one to talk to to find out wheen I might get my bow back, I leave my bow at the store. I call back later and the guy says it will be three days. Good, I can still go shooting 3d with my buddies that weekend (I made plans to take the weekend off the day after I got my bow).
Three days later I call back and end up speaking to different guy. I ask him if my bow is in and he tells me it won't be in untill next week! I tell him that the other guy said it would be in today. Then this fella starts to give me the third degree on whethor or not I dry fired it! I tell him no and if I did I would say so! The things got a lifetime warranty on it. Why would I lie? Those types of things happen and I'm not to proud to admit when I do something wrong. How can I be sure it wasn't dry fired accidentally by somebody looking at it before I bought it? A couple of weeks before I was in that same store and watched some guy dry fire a Hoyt and the salesperson put it right back on the rack! That should have been a warning sign for me.
So anyway I pitch a fit and the guy reluctantly says that he'll take the limbs off of another bowif my replacements aren't in from bowtech. I figure that will at least keep me on track for my weekend. The next day I come in and my bow is still in pieces. I screw aroun telling the other guys that someone said he would put the limbs from another bow on mine if BT's didn't arrive yet. Finally I get a guy to slap'em on. I ask him about my new limbsavers that I bought from them when i bought the bow (I think since the bow was'nt even a week old he should have put on new one's). He said he pulled them off and can stick them on my new limbs. Anyway they look like crap. My bow is still quiet but I am sure not as quiet as it could have been had he put on new ones. I ask if we can paper tune the bow. He says he allready did. Not feeling right I go home shoot my bow and can't hit anything with it for 2 weeks.
Just when I think I might take it in and have it tuned or checked out I realize me center serving is totally loose and my nock is moving up and down. The guy at the shop reserved it for nothing and it shoots better but still doesn't feel like it's tuned right. Two days ago just slightly bumed the grip on a chair while going outside to shoot a cracked it into two pieces.
This was not the fun experience it should have been! My new bow has been a pain in the ass and I have lost my confidence in it being a sound piece of equipment to take hunting. Especially if I go to alska next year bear hunting (my aunt and uncle own a lodge Icould never afford iit otherwise). I should have gone to the little guy and could have probably saved myself alot of grief. I do not regret buying a BowTech however it could have happened to any brand of bow and they backed up their warranty but what's next?
Sorry so long
Kirk
10-15-2002, 05:59 AM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NW Ohio USA
Posts: 1,532
RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
Sorry to hear about the problems you had. Am I correct in assuming you're talking bad about the dealer you bought the bow from? What shop was it if you don't mind telling... You can email me if you wish...
I know these are bows and we pay good money for them and yest from time to time a bad one gets loose. Not that this is directly related but I bought a new 2002 vehicle this spring and I've had problem after problem with it. It cost me $25,000.00 + interest instead of paying $600.00 or $700.00 for a bow....I'm trying real hard to be patient with the dealer I bought it from....
Have a great hunting season...Pat
I know these are bows and we pay good money for them and yest from time to time a bad one gets loose. Not that this is directly related but I bought a new 2002 vehicle this spring and I've had problem after problem with it. It cost me $25,000.00 + interest instead of paying $600.00 or $700.00 for a bow....I'm trying real hard to be patient with the dealer I bought it from....
Have a great hunting season...Pat
10-15-2002, 07:51 AM
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Oh USA
Posts: 1,584
RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
notaveg, not trying to be a smartass, but cracking the grip may be a Godsend. Most people I know remove the factory grip, I did on all mine. Wrap the riser with thick mole skin. Much better. But I'd still get a replacement grip to hang onto.
BTW, sorry to hear of your problems. I'm nothing but happy with my BowTechs. I'm fortunate enough to have a small, capable shop nearby.
What a messy post.
Phil.
"Could you guys be quiet, my dad's trying to shoot."
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:53:56
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:54:54
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:56:26
BTW, sorry to hear of your problems. I'm nothing but happy with my BowTechs. I'm fortunate enough to have a small, capable shop nearby.
What a messy post.
Phil.
"Could you guys be quiet, my dad's trying to shoot."
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:53:56
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:54:54
Edited by - pdq 5oh on 10/15/2002 08:56:26
10-15-2002, 08:12 AM
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CT, USA
Posts: 3,058
RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
Yikes...sounds like that dealer is the pits.
RE: the bow.
YOu should let Bowtech know about that dealer.
I'm not sure what model you bought, but if you ahve a Winners Choice string, they have a warranty, even on servings. You should contact them (their warranty.contact information is at the front of the Bowtech manual that came with your bow). Most other factory strings are not that great unfortunately. Your problem w/ the center seving is not rare sadly, and no company guarantees them.
As far as your limb goes..yeah that sucks..but unofrtunately taht happens...I had my BKII's limb smashed during shipping. At my local dealer I've pointed out a few bows that had limb problems right out of the box. Sometimes the dealers are just so busy they don't look at anything.
JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
RE: the bow.
YOu should let Bowtech know about that dealer.
I'm not sure what model you bought, but if you ahve a Winners Choice string, they have a warranty, even on servings. You should contact them (their warranty.contact information is at the front of the Bowtech manual that came with your bow). Most other factory strings are not that great unfortunately. Your problem w/ the center seving is not rare sadly, and no company guarantees them.
As far as your limb goes..yeah that sucks..but unofrtunately taht happens...I had my BKII's limb smashed during shipping. At my local dealer I've pointed out a few bows that had limb problems right out of the box. Sometimes the dealers are just so busy they don't look at anything.
JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
10-15-2002, 09:08 AM
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RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
Hey, I hate to hear your trouble with the dealer. Have you got a replacement grip yet? If not email me an I have a extra one I will send you. I use after market grips and my original one is just collecting dust.
10-15-2002, 10:45 AM
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RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
Thanks guys.
Your support is greatly appreciated.
UH OH! Gotta go.
Potty training my kid. I'll have to post later.
Kirk
Ok I'm back.
BT_shooter:
If I recall you are employed by BowTech? I hope you can tell the boss about my experience. I live near Salem Oregon if that gives you a clue about the store I bought it from (another reason for buying a BT, I support the companies in my home state as much as possible). I don't like to bad mouth anything or anyone. I guess I just needed to vent about my experience to people who would relate to it. Thanks for your response. You were right on it.
Darn, since this is an edit I can't see the other messages to respond to them but I would like to take the person that offered the grip up on their offer. I sort of tricked out my broken one but would like to have another unbroken one just in case. You guys are great thanks again for your responses.
Kirk
Edited by - Notavegetarian on 10/15/2002 12:16:33
Your support is greatly appreciated.
UH OH! Gotta go.
Potty training my kid. I'll have to post later.
Kirk
Ok I'm back.
BT_shooter:
If I recall you are employed by BowTech? I hope you can tell the boss about my experience. I live near Salem Oregon if that gives you a clue about the store I bought it from (another reason for buying a BT, I support the companies in my home state as much as possible). I don't like to bad mouth anything or anyone. I guess I just needed to vent about my experience to people who would relate to it. Thanks for your response. You were right on it.
Darn, since this is an edit I can't see the other messages to respond to them but I would like to take the person that offered the grip up on their offer. I sort of tricked out my broken one but would like to have another unbroken one just in case. You guys are great thanks again for your responses.
Kirk
Edited by - Notavegetarian on 10/15/2002 12:16:33
10-15-2002, 11:48 AM
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RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
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Hey, I hate to hear your trouble with the dealer. Have you got a replacement grip yet? If not email me an I have a extra one I will send you. I use after market grips and my original one is just collecting dust.
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Thanks BJ! I looked for your e mail but there was none specified. If you want to you can email me so I can email you with my address. Are you sure ypou want to part with your old grip? I might see if BT will send me a new one without me having to send my broken one (it's fall turkey season here and I need my grip right now).
Thanks
JeffB, I'm not sure if I have winners choice strings on my stalker or not. I was given literature from them when I bought my bow. Actually I shouldn't say when I bought my bow. The guy forgot to give me the birth certificate and owners manual. I didn't get it untill I had to bring the bow back to get the limbs replaced. If I wouldn't have asked they never would have given it to me!
stodr, I might just take you up on that offer. Where do you live? I am really hesitant to send my bow anywhere right now though (turkey season) although I suppose if its not tuned right I'll be decreasing my odds of hitting my mark anyway. I would really like to learn how to do everything myself. I enjoy tinkering with things. Maybe that should be my next post after these stupid mid-term essays I need to write! I take it you have alot of experience. Do you own a shop?
Thanks again all
Kirk
Hey, I hate to hear your trouble with the dealer. Have you got a replacement grip yet? If not email me an I have a extra one I will send you. I use after market grips and my original one is just collecting dust.
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Thanks BJ! I looked for your e mail but there was none specified. If you want to you can email me so I can email you with my address. Are you sure ypou want to part with your old grip? I might see if BT will send me a new one without me having to send my broken one (it's fall turkey season here and I need my grip right now).
Thanks
JeffB, I'm not sure if I have winners choice strings on my stalker or not. I was given literature from them when I bought my bow. Actually I shouldn't say when I bought my bow. The guy forgot to give me the birth certificate and owners manual. I didn't get it untill I had to bring the bow back to get the limbs replaced. If I wouldn't have asked they never would have given it to me!
stodr, I might just take you up on that offer. Where do you live? I am really hesitant to send my bow anywhere right now though (turkey season) although I suppose if its not tuned right I'll be decreasing my odds of hitting my mark anyway. I would really like to learn how to do everything myself. I enjoy tinkering with things. Maybe that should be my next post after these stupid mid-term essays I need to write! I take it you have alot of experience. Do you own a shop?
Thanks again all
Kirk