Which line of bows should i go with?
#21
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: .. NH USA
Posts: 970
RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
Quote: "Actually, some of these guys can make some money if he buys their bows! "
Straightarrow-- Not really my friend. Only if a particular person wishes to buy the product I support and promote from me directly. In fact I've lost lots of sales of the Merlins in the past year due to new dealers that are closer to the customers than I am. I also sell lots of different items, can readily get most any bow or product on the market, and yet I still choose to shoot one specific brand. Why, because I sell alot of them? No. I sell alot of stuff. It's because I believe in the quality of their products and service, and find them to be among the most accurate bows I've ever shot, bottom line. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Had to clear that up so there would be no misconceptions about "alterior motives", at least on my part, anyway! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
Straightarrow-- Not really my friend. Only if a particular person wishes to buy the product I support and promote from me directly. In fact I've lost lots of sales of the Merlins in the past year due to new dealers that are closer to the customers than I am. I also sell lots of different items, can readily get most any bow or product on the market, and yet I still choose to shoot one specific brand. Why, because I sell alot of them? No. I sell alot of stuff. It's because I believe in the quality of their products and service, and find them to be among the most accurate bows I've ever shot, bottom line. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>
Had to clear that up so there would be no misconceptions about "alterior motives", at least on my part, anyway! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
#22
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RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
Pinwheel,
I understand that you can offer other products, but just to play devil's advocate, <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> let's pretend that on brand A a dealer makes a 50% profit and on line B, he makes 35% profit. Which brand might the average dealer be tempted to promote, regardless of features or quality? I've seen real life examples of this many times.
Some manufacturers use this as a sales tactic. They give the dealer a larger protected territory, so competition between dealers is lessened. They inflate the suggested retail and both the manufacturer and the dealer make more money per bow sold. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, just that it can be a motivation. I've heard this same complaint about Mathews many times. Dealers want to carry their line and they push their bows when they do offer them. Why? Because these bows sell fast at high margins in protected territories. It has nothing to do with fit, finish, tolerances, etc. Dealers want to push bows that give them the greatest opportunity to make money. Having said all that, you may be the exception and truly push only what you consider the best bow, regardless of how little you may make and even if it offers no protected sales area.
Besides, my original statement said "can make money", which is very true.
I understand that you can offer other products, but just to play devil's advocate, <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle> let's pretend that on brand A a dealer makes a 50% profit and on line B, he makes 35% profit. Which brand might the average dealer be tempted to promote, regardless of features or quality? I've seen real life examples of this many times.
Some manufacturers use this as a sales tactic. They give the dealer a larger protected territory, so competition between dealers is lessened. They inflate the suggested retail and both the manufacturer and the dealer make more money per bow sold. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with this, just that it can be a motivation. I've heard this same complaint about Mathews many times. Dealers want to carry their line and they push their bows when they do offer them. Why? Because these bows sell fast at high margins in protected territories. It has nothing to do with fit, finish, tolerances, etc. Dealers want to push bows that give them the greatest opportunity to make money. Having said all that, you may be the exception and truly push only what you consider the best bow, regardless of how little you may make and even if it offers no protected sales area.
Besides, my original statement said "can make money", which is very true.
#23
Spike
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wisconsin, USA
Posts: 55
RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
Personally, I shoot a Renegade Trophy rack plus It has good fit and finish, is quiet and fast comes with a lifetime warranty and is resonably priced compaired to some of the other manufactures.
#24
Typical Buck
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RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
Straightarrow--
Yep, devils' advocate you are, LOL! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I can say you are correct, some dealers do cater to that type of thinking, I however do not. I run the same percentage profit margins across the board with all manufacturers' products. Keeps people coming back when they know you aren't putting the screws to them. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
Yep, devils' advocate you are, LOL! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I can say you are correct, some dealers do cater to that type of thinking, I however do not. I run the same percentage profit margins across the board with all manufacturers' products. Keeps people coming back when they know you aren't putting the screws to them. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Good shooting, Pinwheel 12
#25
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RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
Pinwheel,
I suspect you are a very above-board dealer who treats customers fairly. Otherwise you wouldn't have such a good reputation. However, back to playing the devil's advocate!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
If brand A is a 35% markup, but your selling price is $20 higher than a dealer 10 miles down the road selling the same bow, then that dealer may have the upper hand. If brand B at the same 35% markup is $20 lower than your nearest competitor who is 400 miles away, then the incentive to push brand B, becomes more obvious. If everyone thinks brand A is the best brand, then your competitor is likely to get a majority of the sales. However, if most think that brand B is better, then chances are great that you will get a lions share. The average dealer promotes brand B and I don't blame them a bit, since there is so little difference in the shootability of most bow lines today, especially when selling to a hunter who is not concerned with catching a line.
I suspect you are a very above-board dealer who treats customers fairly. Otherwise you wouldn't have such a good reputation. However, back to playing the devil's advocate!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
If brand A is a 35% markup, but your selling price is $20 higher than a dealer 10 miles down the road selling the same bow, then that dealer may have the upper hand. If brand B at the same 35% markup is $20 lower than your nearest competitor who is 400 miles away, then the incentive to push brand B, becomes more obvious. If everyone thinks brand A is the best brand, then your competitor is likely to get a majority of the sales. However, if most think that brand B is better, then chances are great that you will get a lions share. The average dealer promotes brand B and I don't blame them a bit, since there is so little difference in the shootability of most bow lines today, especially when selling to a hunter who is not concerned with catching a line.
#26
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NC
Posts: 1,284
RE: Which line of bows should i go with?
There are alot of good bows out there and i don't think one is any better than the other. I've owned and shot about everything out there and i'm not loyal to no particular brand. Don't get caught up in the speed thing and the my bow is better than yours game because the name on the limb isn't going to kill a thing except your wallet depending on what you buy. A well placed sharp broadhead coming from a well tuned bow will kill no matter what name is on the limb. Go to a shop or several of them and shoot all you can and buy the bow that you can afford and one that you can shoot comfortably and with confidence. Just my thoughts!
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