dsheally

I have a 2005 Darton Tundra. The bow is set on 68 lbs. 28 1/2 inch draw.
I use a Carter Hand held release with a rope on it. No matter what set up
I try my arrows sway left/right/left/right toward the target with field points.
I have tried various arrows from 75/95 Goldtips and 100 and 125 gr. tips
and 2315's with 100 gr. tips. The arrow rests I have tried are the Star
Hunter rest(my favorite) as well as drop away rests like the ripcord. No matter
where I position my rests left and right or move my nocking point my arrows
do the same thing. They are consistant in doing the swaying left/right going
toward the target. I tried a d-loop to no avail. I took the handle off the bow
thinking I may be torquing the bow to no avail. This problem is driving me
crazy!! I have a bow hunt for elk coming up in Sept. and need to find out
what is wrong or what I am doing wrong. Help!! -Drew

PABowhntr

I take it that by saying "swaying" you mean that the arrows are fishtailing. It seems like you have experimented with a few different spine combinations by switching to different arrows and different point weights. You could possibly take this a step further and actually try a different size Goldtip and/or aluminum. I haven't looked at the charts but it is possible that you are significantly overspined or underspined even with the changes in point weight. Just a thought.

Second, you mentioned the fishtailing but are you determining this by watching the arrow go to the target or by paper tuning? Again, it sounds like you have made some effort by adjusting centershot but if you are just visually "watching the arrow" leave your bow then it is possible you are "peeking' during the shot thus causing the fishtailing action.

Third, you are trying different rests which is great...especially since you tried a drop away but are you getting a clearance even with the dropaway? I know several folks who have had problems with the timing on their drop away rests and they still get fletching contact.

Lastly, I would probably suggest taking it to a reputable shop to have them look at it. You are in Md. so I would suggest dropping by Len's shop. If anybody knows Dartons then it would be him. If there is something significantly wrong with the bow itself and not just the setup then he should be able to root it out for you.

Sorry I could not help more.

extreme1

I agree with PABowhntr,it may be possible you are dropping your head to look at the arrow in flight on the release.
Another thing to look at would be your tiller,may be off a bit on the top or bottom limb.Just a thought .

jsasker

Have you checked to see if you're clearing the cables with your fletching?Is your bow still timed correctly?Possible nock high or low?String stretch?Cam leaning one way at full draw?Bent axles?

ijimmy

Im with jsasker , would look for fletch contact first .Unless you are useing feathers , then Id be looking for something else , nock fit maybe .

gibblet

1 thing i'd also try is fletching an arrow with all the same color vanes. its amazing how many tuning problems this can cure that you're judging with your eyes.

dsheally

Thanks for the reply's guy's. I checked on the Easton site and they call this type
of problem minnowing. Like fishtailing but not as severe. They say it is usually
caused by fletching contact. I am using Blazers on the 2315's and 4 inch vanes
on the 75/95's. I went home this morning from work and put on a pacesetter
rest and both arrows minnowed toward the target like the other rests I used.
The pacesetter is a good one for good clearance. I tried other cable slides
so I don't think there is contact there. I have tried feathers but that did not
help. As for peeking, I guess I am but at 40 yards I can see the arrow
minnowing down range for a way's. I feel my form is good on the shot.
As for spine problem I really don't think that is it. Ive tried 2314's, 2315's
55/75's and 75/95's and get the same result. I would go to Len's shop but
it is a 3 hr. drive away one way so I'm leaving that as a last resort for now.
My tiller is set even on the bow. I do shoot all 3 same colored fletches on
my arrows so I can turn the nocks and tune the arrows. I feel the problem is
in the bow itself. One guy on another site thought the bottom cam and upper
control wheel might not be in alignment with each other causing the left/right
problem on the draw cycle and shot which might be possible. They were off
from each other a bit so I moved the bottom cam left a little. I will shoot it in
the morning to see if it made any difference. Thanks again for your reply's.
I'll let you know what happens. -Drew

PABowhntr

Drew,

I normally don't suggest this before ruling everything else out but it seemed after your original post that this was probably the problem. Good luck and let us know what happens.

nodog

Sounds like a real head banger. I'll just through this out. Draw your bow and get all lined up without putting your finger on the triger. While looking place your finger on and off the triger. My site window changes when I am not carefull and can throw the arrow off 2" to the right and as you might expect it wasn't always a consistant 2". You could be causing it from the moment you hit the release. I would find it hard to believe you were doing it on every shot though. Hope you figure it out and let us know.

One guy in the past here had a problem he determined to be his axel pins.

dsheally

Hey guy's, I moved my cam and upper control wheel a little so they were more
in line with each other today and shot the bow. With both the 2315 and the
75/95 at 30 and 40 yards, the arrows look to be flying straight. I do not see
what I had been seeing. The 75/95's are really flying like darts. Now I have to decide which arrow to hunt with. The 487gr. 75/95 or the 500 gr. 2315.
Thanks again! -Drew