Bigg~BirddVA

Bet you didn't see the guys in red coats on horses either. The fox chasing loophole has got to be the most abused act in VA.

deerdogdude

I need to come and hunt where some of you guys do... it seems every time some of you step out of the door there is a dog running deer, no matter where or when but it seems to happen to you everydaylol.

Hokieman

Like your are doing on every post.

Bigg~BirddVA

I'm going to say every Sat all of bow & ML last year but there might have been one that wasn't messed with. And a lot of the weekdays. I hunted late season in an area that dogs were not allowed at all for deer and had zero there. Funny where there is zero dogs allowed for deer there are no "fox" hunters. Hmmmmm.........?????? LOL

Bigg~BirddVA

On dog chasing issues I respond. No new posts off-topic on non-hunting issues.

bryant1

That's right! All you would have to do is step out into the woods and wait for a pack to come running deer out everywhere.You guys must have a dog experience everytime you go out. It sure is funny- my friend and his family go every year to Virginia to stillhunt right in the middle of doghunting country and have NEVER had a dog experience. In fact, his dad bought a beagle/walker cross (they are also doghunters too).

eng40sqd

As far as having no dog issues where you hunted late season I would hope not, since you state that there is no deer dog hunting allowed.

The whole thing with no fox hunters where there is no deer dog hunting could be very misleading to people if you choose not to disclose where you are hunting. If you were hunting in Fairfax or Prince William Counties (as examples) then I would expect that there are no fox hunters that run their to begin with. Due mostly to the part of the landscape being so cut up that it makes running hard, and the chances of loosing a dog on a roadway greatly increase in a enviroment like that. So that makes it very unrealistic that you would find a fox hunter there, besides I am unsure if the county regulations would allow for it as well.
Fox
Hunting With Dogs and Firearms
Season:
November 1-February 29. Closed in Albemarle, Clarke, Culpeper, Fauquier (except Quantico), Loudoun, Louisa, and Rappahannock counties.
Dogs May Not Be Used:
[ul][*]To hunt foxes during deer season
[ul][*]on the Gathright, Goshen, Highland and Little North Mountain Wildlife Management Areas and within the boundaries of the George Washington/Jefferson National Forests. [/ul][/ul]
Hunting With Dogs Only
Continuous open season statewide; closed February 1-October 31 on the George Washington/Jefferson National Forests and on Gathright, Goshen, G. Richard Thompson, Highland, Little North Mountain, and Rapidan WMAs.
Restrictions:
[ul][*]To have in possession a firearm when hunting fox outside of the dog and gun fox season. Possession shall include, but not be limited to, having any firearm in or on one's person, vehicle, or conveyance [/ul]
(taken from the VDGIF website)(dont want the copywrite police to get me!)


Now if you were hunting in a western county or a county with more rural setting then there could be a few reasons. First of all you stated it was still deer season, so why couldnt the fox hunters be deer hunting (either still hunting or hunting in another location where it is legal to use deer dogs).

Not all fox hunters (who use dogs) are deer dog hunters. There are some that strictly do one or the other.

I am not saying that there does not need to be some changes made to control the rogue hunters, I am saying that contrary to your opinion (which you are entitled to but it is opinion) that not everyone who uses a dog to chase fox or deer is a slob hunter. It just seems that you might be next to a group that has some issues, or maybe you just dont like it at all and think that if everyone doesnt hunt like you do then they are in the wrong?

Either way trying to bust apart the overall ranks of all hunters in VA is doing nothing but helping the Anti's, believe me there are alot of eyes on everyone and alot of groups laying in wait to strike.

Justin

Bigg~BirddVA

There was no dog hunting for deer and only deer on that piece, a state WMA. There is deer chasing allowed on the adjoining lands. But since it's late season and dog deer chasing is open elsewhere the doggers move onto other places. None of the deer chasing affects fox chasing but not a single "fox" chase going on. Why's that? One explanation is that the so called fox hounds don't exist but are in reality deer hounds using the fox loophole. But since there was legal chasing and shooting elsewhere they choose that instead. Now I bet once the shooting/chasing ends they start back chasing "foxes" there. I'll be scouting soon and I'll see then if I'm correct.


Also no need to post dog chasing rules and laws. I know them all too well by now.

Hokieman

A statement made by the Legend Bob Kane -Bobby responded on another forum that and I quote " I exaggerated the number of non-hunters in VHDOA for effect." and He deliberately lied to House Ag Committe and present house members on January 30, 2008. what else has bobby lied about for effect.

Bigg~BirddVA

Well if anyone was qualified to spot a lie you're my man for that job. Takes one to know one.