Brod_Man

what would you rather have for yotes/foxs out to about 100yds? cause i could get either for around $200, and would like to know a better of the two.
Thanks in advance.

4patches

well , I went through this delema just recently. torn between the two .. well hate to be told the perfect caliber for anything because its not what you got but how you use it. I got myself a savage model 24s 22mag / 20ga and it has served me well. dont take shots over 100 yards, the shotgun has taken a runner at 30 yards that i would have never got with a rifle. hope this helps

Brod_Man

i was just wondering, what you guys think power wise difference, and knockdown power between the 2.

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Brod man
For about $100 bucks more go with a center fire .22 hornet, .222, .223, .204 ruger, ect. center fires giveyou more room for errors. With the center fires if youhit it you'll get it99% of the time.
Rimfires missing thevitals BRAIN/HEART (about the size of an egg)will result inlong running, wounded/lost game, rimfire woundsdon't leavevery goodblood trails

People that think (rimfires) .17/.22 lr/wmr/hmr are ok for coyotes.
THEY ARE MISINFORMED OR WRONG.
Don't know where you get your information but it is WRONG!
Here is some info. for you people (Note the energy) this is the stopping power a bullet has. The next thing is not very many hunters can hit a head/heart shot (egg) at 50 + yards everytime. Why use a rimfire and just barely get the job done and take chance of wounding and/or losing it.
.22 long rifle average velocity 1700 fps with 40gr bullet has 119 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards.
.22 WMR average velocity of 2000 fps with 40gr bullet has 160 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards.
36gr bullets little faster less energy at 100 yards.
.17 rimfires higher velocity less energy at 100 yards.
.22 hornet with velocity on the low end of 2500 fps with 40gr bullet has 261 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards.
hornet reload with velocity of 3100 fps with 40gr bullet has 423ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards.
45gr bullet at 2700 fps has 500 ft/lbs of energy at 100 yards.

This being said center fires have it hands down (hornet being the smallest .22 center fire comercially avalible.)

IMO rimfires for coyotes is like using a 7mm for elephants under perfect conditions they will work BUT in hunting not all things are perfect.
PLEASE HAVE RESPECT.USE CORRECT CARTRIGDE/BULLET COMBO FOR THE GAME YOU HUNT.

DVXDUDE

here is a coyote i shot in the head with my Savage 17hmr using Remington V-max 17grain.

I love the 17hmr for groundhogs and birds. I'm very comfortable with my 17hmr. I can hit penny's or be very close at 50 yards almost everytime. at 100 yards under 1\2 3 shot groups almosteverytime ( couple flyers here and there). If I'm going coyote calling I always use the 12guage or .243 but had the 17hmr with me that day.Seen that young dog out in the field mousing when I barked once at her and she sat and looked in my direction and i put a 17g pill in her brain

Brod_Man

i beleive you about the centerfires, but i cant find one anywhere for under $300 dollars, let alone $200. if you showed me one, id almost have to buy it.(not including singleshot like NEF or Rossi.)

4patches

good luck finding a cheep centerfire. as for us that wound and maim the poor dogs with our underpowered weapons. where i hunt is a 40 acre tract that is bordered by developments, dont think i want to let loose with a high powerd rifle there thank you. when i touch off my 22 no one seems to mind. several states dontlet you usehigh power rifles, so keep it safe.

Brod_Man

a year or so back if i had been in it as much i couldhave picked up a remington 700 syn. stock in .243 for $250, but it sold fast, and that walmart quit sellin guns, so for now im gonna stuck with my 20ga. slugs.lol. im gonna check our other walmart soon though.

BowHuntingFool

Save your money and get the right gun, don't settle for anything less than what you want! You can always get a used gun??? I looked and looked and got a great deal on my Savage .204 on clearance! Patience is a virtue!

Brod_Man

i need the virtue of saving money, and im starting right now. im gonna save 3/4 of all the money i get for a rifle, and spend the other fourth so i can get one sooner.