Moose in trouble
#31
RE: Moose in trouble
I think we all agree that the pics. on this thread show wolves killing the moose. The article even says that the pack in the picture is a known study pack! It is a fact that coyotes can/do pack up also, usually during harsh winter conditions when larger prey become the primary source of food, because with deep snow larger prey is more vulnerable and smaller prey is harder to catch.
As far as 80 pound coyotes running around. I have seen a couple of pics. in the recent years of such critters, BUT short of DNA testing, who's to say that they weren't a crossbreed of some sort! Even then, 80# critters will have a much harder time at tackling a full grown moose when compared to 150# wolves! Could 60#-80# critters tackle a moose, probablya smaller moose that is in deep snow! Deep crusty snow is the equalizer factor that puts large prey at a greater risk. That and the fact thatduring harsh winters the deer, elk, and moose are often struggling just to survive anyways!
It is a fact that some of the eastern coyotes are larger than the western. Just how much larger is up for debate,and DNA testing would be necassary to postively identify coyote or coyote/wolf cross! Also, those eastern coyotes can have some really cool color phases that aren't found in the west!
As far as 80 pound coyotes running around. I have seen a couple of pics. in the recent years of such critters, BUT short of DNA testing, who's to say that they weren't a crossbreed of some sort! Even then, 80# critters will have a much harder time at tackling a full grown moose when compared to 150# wolves! Could 60#-80# critters tackle a moose, probablya smaller moose that is in deep snow! Deep crusty snow is the equalizer factor that puts large prey at a greater risk. That and the fact thatduring harsh winters the deer, elk, and moose are often struggling just to survive anyways!
It is a fact that some of the eastern coyotes are larger than the western. Just how much larger is up for debate,and DNA testing would be necassary to postively identify coyote or coyote/wolf cross! Also, those eastern coyotes can have some really cool color phases that aren't found in the west!
#34
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Moose in trouble
ORIGINAL: Howler
Even then, 80# critters will have a much harder time at tackling a full grown moose when compared to 150# wolves! Could 60#-80# critters tackle a moose, probablya smaller moose that is in deep snow!
Even then, 80# critters will have a much harder time at tackling a full grown moose when compared to 150# wolves! Could 60#-80# critters tackle a moose, probablya smaller moose that is in deep snow!
#36
RE: Moose in trouble
I think we all agree that the pics. on this thread show wolves killing the moose. The article even says that the pack in the picture is a known study pack!
As far as 80 pound coyotes running around. I have seen a couple of pics. in the recent years of such critters, BUT short of DNA testing, who's to say that they weren't a crossbreed of some sort!
#37
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tri Cities, Washington
Posts: 1,616
RE: Moose in trouble
Yea, but the yotes in Ohio are bigger and smarter too!!! They also howl different, but I still shoot them at 800 yards with my 223 Savage.
Sorry, that is just what popped into my head.
Sorry, that is just what popped into my head.