Deer Drives NJ
01-13-2005, 08:04 PM
#11
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Unfortunately, a \"Blue\" state
Posts: 1,943
RE: Deer Drives NJ
There are some real jerks out there, so i'd watch laughing at deer hunters when you run your beagles through WMA's during deer season. You may go home with a few less than what you started with,,,,
01-14-2005, 07:25 AM
#14
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Bergen Co. NJ
Posts: 129
RE: Deer Drives NJ
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Well put... My point precisely!! Urban sprawl isn't diminishing. Deer are adaptable by nature and flourish in suburban settings.. tactics of the century past may not be feasible or safe given the fact we pursue our sport in the most densely human populated state in the nation. As a group we must adapt with our tactics or we will lose what we have. Flexibility is the key.
Jim B.
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I think the state needs to look at modifying the rules for driving otherwise not only will you have antis looking to stop it, you will have non hunters and sportsmen lobbying for it as well. It is time to look at the overall future of hunting in NJ and if it means altering a hunting method, that is better than no hunting at all.
Jim B.
01-14-2005, 07:31 AM
#15
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location:
Posts: 241
RE: Deer Drives NJ
Have you guys looked at any maps. The wmas of south jersey are huge. 640 acres is a sq. mile. Most if not all wma's in the south are 1000 + acres and most large deer drives are preformed in the Belleplain area. Yes, maybe they should limit drives to 3 of 6 days during 6 day season. I'm OK with that. Hunter should stand up for other hunter no matter if they use that method or not. The hunters never stood up for us trappers in the 80's and we losed the leg-hold. The the smallgame hunter bitched that there was no game do to the fox. People make rule and don't know the real deal. Have you ever seen a fox in a snare. It's no different then a leg hold just a different part of the body. Don't put something down until you know the real deal. I don't mean read about it or what somebody tells you. Give it a legitamate try. Then voice your view. Stopping deer drive because you don't do it. What if the deer drives wanted no stand hunting on certain days how would you stand hunters feel. ATTACKED! I hunt everything and all different ways. Variety is the spice of life. And for all the deer only people that ask me to take them rabbit hunting don't bitch when the rabbit only guy runs thruogh your ground. His season is way shorter then yours.
Till our trails cross,
Wild Works
Till our trails cross,
Wild Works
ORIGINAL: NJBowman
Guys I think the more important point here is times are changing. With land getting smaller and homes being built close to alor of wmas and other public land. The complaints that come from clubs driving deer are becoming more frequent. There was a piece on channel 12 news about a school that would not let the kids go outside for recess because hunters were driving the woods by the school. By me this year a club had items thrown at their trucks in a parking lot by residents that followed them there after they were driving to close to their houses.
I think the state needs to look at modifying the rules for driving otherwise not only will you have antis looking to stop it, you will have non hunters and sportsmen lobbying for it as well. It is time to look at the overall future of hunting in NJ and if it means altering a hunting method, that is better than no hunting at all.
Guys I think the more important point here is times are changing. With land getting smaller and homes being built close to alor of wmas and other public land. The complaints that come from clubs driving deer are becoming more frequent. There was a piece on channel 12 news about a school that would not let the kids go outside for recess because hunters were driving the woods by the school. By me this year a club had items thrown at their trucks in a parking lot by residents that followed them there after they were driving to close to their houses.
I think the state needs to look at modifying the rules for driving otherwise not only will you have antis looking to stop it, you will have non hunters and sportsmen lobbying for it as well. It is time to look at the overall future of hunting in NJ and if it means altering a hunting method, that is better than no hunting at all.
01-14-2005, 08:54 AM
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: NJ USA
Posts: 237
RE: Deer Drives NJ
ORIGINAL: RAY WOODROW 3RD
Fellow hunters please don't take this with any disrespect but.....
My license fees pay for "public land" just like yours do.
If I get together with a group of guys (I belong to a club that pushes zone 21 and 24) and push a piece of land that is public so be it. Deal with it. It's my land too as you can tell by the "public" in "public lands".
RW3
Fellow hunters please don't take this with any disrespect but.....
My license fees pay for "public land" just like yours do.
If I get together with a group of guys (I belong to a club that pushes zone 21 and 24) and push a piece of land that is public so be it. Deal with it. It's my land too as you can tell by the "public" in "public lands".
RW3
01-14-2005, 09:21 AM
#18
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: the woods of NJ.
Posts: 5,643
RE: Deer Drives NJ
Hunter should stand up for other hunter no matter if they use that method or not. The hunters never stood up for us trappers in the 80's and we losed the leg-hold. The the smallgame hunter bitched that there was no game do to the fox. People make rule and don't know the real deal.
01-14-2005, 10:06 AM
#19
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Wilmington Delaware USA
Posts: 699
RE: Deer Drives NJ
Here, where I'm from in south jersey it's like next of kin. If your not from here then you are an outsider. Just as if, I hunted in your back yard. You don't have to be in good shape to sit on your a** in a deer stand. Put your boots on and walk a mile in my meadow muskratting let's see what your made of.
01-14-2005, 11:12 AM
#20
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location:
Posts: 241
RE: Deer Drives NJ
Wish it still was. Snaring isn't that bad though. Just different.
ORIGINAL: jerseyhunter
Well said. If legholds were allowed I'd still be trapping.[&o]
Hunter should stand up for other hunter no matter if they use that method or not. The hunters never stood up for us trappers in the 80's and we losed the leg-hold. The the smallgame hunter bitched that there was no game do to the fox. People make rule and don't know the real deal.