livbucks

Since when was shooting a buck under the old rules a "sure thing"? The idea of letting juniors shoot under the old AR was to give them a little more opportunity instead of putting more pressure on them to judge their buck when it appears. Many kids probably are more selective and won't shoot that spike, but that is their choosing. It has already been proven that the actual kill of sub AR bucks by juniors is statistically insignificant, but the idea that they have more of a chance is to them, well, motivating to say the least. I say let the juniors shoot any buck. Servicemen..that I'm not sure of. Do they have to be active servicemen?

Rem1100

YES!! but take them during an regular season..not make a "special" season to fit in around their young "busy" schedules. My daughter went hunting with me when she wanted to go. She had to make the choice of which she'd rather do that day, and until later, she chose hunting over other activities.
The last sentence of your quote is sad & true........

livbucks

I'm not sure about the special youth hunts. I'm not against them per se' but isn't it like saying;
"OK kiddies, you can go on your hunt now, but when regular season rolls around, you gotta stay home with Mommy while the grown men go on their trip" ?

Although they do have special youth fishing days. Don't they? I guess any opportunity to introduce the youth to the sport is good in the end.

Maybe the thinking is that the weather is better for the kids.
Maybe the thinking is that there will be more open spots in the woods instead of fighting with other guys over the better places to watch.
I'm still not decided on this yet I guess.

I guess the fact that I WANT my kid to go out every time with me makes the youth hunts seem unnecessary.

wingbar

AR is AR no special treatment for kids no special treatment for servicemen active or inactive
when I was in the service an home on leave I was just happy to get out in the woods and pleased I was sure to get a county doe permit. That was enough my old Uncle Uly taught me it was the hunt not the kill.

BTBowhunter

I would hope it would be more like a day for dad to take the kid out and just concentrate on the kid's hunt. I guess my A__hole brother in law sticks in my mind. When his son was 12 I took my son AND my nephew because brother in law didnt want to be bothered messing his hunt up. Maybe he's an exception, maybe not. I sure hope he is!

livbucks

I know what you mean BTB

Since my kid started hunting, every day in the woods is all about my kid.
I'm naieve in that some guys don't want to be bothered. Would never occur to me to be that way.

BTBowhunter

Livbucks
To answer your question about servicemen, yes it's only for active duty folks.

germain

Maybe I'm missing something here.They said the deer are destroying our forests and the maples are taking over.We all know deer browse maples and maples shade out the oaks.So if there's alot less deer aren't there going to be alot more maples shading out the oaks?It just seems bass ackwards to me.

wingbar

germain: what you are missing is that now Pa has a very vocal minority of hunters that are more interested in trying to make Pa into a midwester deer state,also whom are perfectly content seeing just 25 deer in a season of hard hunting as long as 12 of them are "shooter" buck. The same type of shooter bucks they see getting killed on thier hunting videos.
Pa is not Ill, Iowa, Ks,etc. we are way to populated for that.
what these wannabe video stars should do is spend more time in Philadelphia county archery hunting for those type of bucks rather than trying to get the MAJORITY of hunters in Pa to change the state to their wishes. WB

germain

man wingbar those guys would be real pressed to see 25 deer a year on public land.In the NC that ain't happing.Lucky to see 1 or 2 a day.