Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
12-21-2004, 12:27 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2004
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RE: Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
I have not gone on the anti-Alt threads and countered every statement they make. If you are an Alt basher, why post here? I guess it is their right to do so, just as it is their right to shoot every last doe and BB in a low WMU and then blame Alt for allowing them to do it.
12-21-2004, 01:36 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 1,503
RE: Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
Charlie P, your right there is a need for some cull bucks to be taken. I for one saw a 4.5 year old 6pnt this season with nearly a 20inch spread in Butler County (4pnt or better rule) and had to let him walk. Hopefully leaving the juniors and servicemen will help weed out some of them. But if we keep the AR, nature will eventually weed them out on its own. As the biggest, strongest, more superior deer will be doing the breeding just leaving the weaklings around which will slowly dissapear over time be it by the means of a predator or a vechile (most whitetails dont make it past the age 6 or 7 in the wild anyway). We keep the AR in place and manage the doe tags better, Pa has the potential to be a great place to deer hunt in about 10 years.
12-21-2004, 02:23 PM
#37
Fork Horn
Join Date: Nov 2004
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RE: Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
I think everyone agrees with that point, keep AR drop HR. If there is a true need for HR in a WMU they by all means offer bonus tags but the the PGC needs to open it's eyes to the fact HR is not needed statewide
12-21-2004, 02:31 PM
#38
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 491
RE: Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
Not only is that going to make for smaller racks in the future, but its going to make for the bred does having less fawns and fawns in poor health which is still decreasing the herd.
AR promotes the harvesting of the superior bucks in each age class and leaves the inferior buck to become dominant breeders. BTW, we had dominant breeding in PA long before AR was implemented . In 2002 ,before there were any bucks saved by AR, we harvested 53K 2.5+ buck. AR only increased that by 9K ,even though we harvested 85% of the buck that were carried over from 2002. That means AR only added 1 additional 2.5+ buck ,for every 5 SM, which is essentially meaningless.
12-21-2004, 02:35 PM
#39
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 491
RE: Thank you Gary Alt! Best wishes in your retirement!
I have not gone on the anti-Alt threads and countered every statement they make. If you are an Alt basher, why post here?
Can you cite a study that shows AR increased the average size of 2.5+ buck in any state where AR has been implemented statewide?