alt wants 5 pt zone
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren PA USA
Posts: 1,512
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
If you save a tag for ML season ,you are a rifle hunter not a bow hunter ,unless you use a bow in the late season . Don't expect archers to receive credit for killing a doe with a ML in the late season.
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: milford Pennsylvania USA
Posts: 140
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
DD, I do agree that all hunters need to be responsible for thier harvest of does. It really doesn't matter what season they are harvested in though. While the earlier the better in terms of each animals effect on the available food, habitat, breeding, etc it's what each hunter harvests each year that really matters. Where it does matter is when archers lobby for longer seasons, no early muzzleloader season, etc, etc. As a group they are not doing thier part. Before anyone gets in a huff, I do archery hunt and folks should know that noone loves harvesting a doe more than me!! I do think that different factors contribute to the harvest figures, many archers wait to harvest does in the other, later seasons, again with some impact on the available food source and a bunch more impact on thier validity as a lobbying group when seasons are being made, changed, etc. DD, now the archers are bad folks. Gosh your angry at everyone. Juniorpc.
#14
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 491
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
Now, tell me why it's okay for rifle hunters to shoot only buck, but archers should be only shooting doe or at least shooting more doe. Tell me why so many nimrods in rifle season don't have a doe tag on their back? Is it because most guys that get doe tags try to get multiple doe tags and the others don't get one and don't have to 'help out'?
I personally don't care when any one harvests the deer of their choice as long as their actions are consistent with their support of Alt's plan. In other words they should practice what they preach. Those that oppose Alt's plan are also free to harvest or not harvest what they want when they want,but they too should be consistent. I favor herd reduction in the area where I hunt so we shot the first legal deer worth butchering. Since I don't support AR it didn't matter if a was a doe or a BB,as long as it was legal.
#15
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,358
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
I am all for the restrictions already in place in PA, and I only hunt it one week in October for archery!! It will take several years to see its true effect.
However, a 5 pt restriction seems a bit overboard. That means that the "small" deer would be a 9-10 ptr, come on now a bit silly if you ask me.
Leave it as is for a few years, see what happens, then up it to 4 pt statewide if you want, but 5 is going a bit far.
Just a non-resident opinion, but still....
--Bob
However, a 5 pt restriction seems a bit overboard. That means that the "small" deer would be a 9-10 ptr, come on now a bit silly if you ask me.
Leave it as is for a few years, see what happens, then up it to 4 pt statewide if you want, but 5 is going a bit far.
Just a non-resident opinion, but still....
--Bob
#16
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Warren PA USA
Posts: 1,512
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
Now show me where I said or implied that it was okay for rifle hunters to shoot only buck. Rifle hunters harvestes 2.6 doe for every buck while archers harvested 1.1 doe for every buck. Are you implying rifle hunters aren't doing their part? All I am saying is that many archers intentionally delay harvesting a doe or multiple doe during archery season and as a result the archery anterless harvest is much lower than it could be . At the same time many archers support Alt's call for an early anterless season to save a few weeks worth of food.
That means the most of the archers are passing on anterless and waiting for a buck.
#17
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pa USA
Posts: 287
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
Also, there are no proposals or discussions going on relating to a 5pt restrictions at the PGC.
Next thing we'll hear is that the restrictions will be 4 pts on both sides and nothing less. Not 3x5 or 2x6 but only 4x4.
Next thing we'll hear is that the restrictions will be 4 pts on both sides and nothing less. Not 3x5 or 2x6 but only 4x4.
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Pittsburgh PA
Posts: 947
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
It is alot harder to harvest a doe in archery than it is in rifle season. I didn't have the chance to harvest any doe during last archery season, but I took 3 during the gun season. I did pass on 3 buck during archery season and they were all legal. Does this mean I'm not doing my part as an archer because I didn't harvest a doe?
#20
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 491
RE: alt wants 5 pt zone
If you didn't have the opportunity to harvest a doe during archery,no one should hold that against you. I had the same problem so I know how you feel. But, there is no question that that archers could harvest more anterless deer if they choose to do so. Actually I don't blame the archers in the least, I blame Alt for implementing AR before we even started to reduce the herd.